Imagine caring what app other people use.
I care in the sense that if a lot of other people are happy with a different client, I want to try it myself.
You’re not a real Linux user unless you bitch about other people’s software choices
I’m a Linux user and I already have Sync for lemmy lifetime pass. Am I not real
Fellow linux and Sync supporter here, I think we real
your choice in software sucks
arch btw
/s
They bitch because they care. /s
Imagine caring about people caring
Imagine caring about people imagining people caring about people caring.
Did I spell caring right? It really doesn’t look right anymore.
Yeah it’s not like that the majority of people using e.g. Chrome over FOSS alternative like Firefox has any repercussions, why would we care, right?
Nobody is forcing you to use sync, hell nobody is even asking you to try it. So why not stop being one of the spiteful angry assholes that is driving people away from Lemmy.
Interesting that you got “spiteful angry asshole” from my comment lol
Yeah, I was wondering where that part of the comment came from as well…
“Spiteful angry asshole” is a dumb response. I agree with everything else.
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Sure but it’s the same concept of why we should care what others are using, which was what the comment I replied to critisized.
Weird. I downloaded synch and didnt pay a cent. Is there a pay version?
they mean free as in freedom,
There’s a free ad version, non-ad version($20), and extra feature version ($100/life, $16/yr, $2?/mo)
Yeah it’s free, but the ad-free version is 20 quid and the Ultra version is a laughable 100 quid
I mean, I used Sync for Reddit for 8 years, so considering the costs on a pet year basis…
Seriously why are there so many posts about this? Let it go, people
The more popular your personal favorite app is, the more attention it will get from developers, this making your app better.
See, it’s not just about caring about somebody else’s preferences.
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You can support FOSS devs, too.
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When there’s a FOSS app as good as sync, sure.
Why make this comment? They didn’t say they weren’t going to.
They are in more need of it.
Literally zero FOSS apps that are even half as good as Sync.
Eh, Infinity for Lemmy is.
Although it’s in alpha and theirfor there many bugs, but feature wise it might be even better than Sync
I was switching between Voyager, Infinity and Thunder until Sync got released. None of those even come close to the User Experience of Sync. It’s not even the bugs, it’s the interface and the UX.
I’ve been happy with Liftoff.
I was happy with connect. Then I craved for foss. Now I’m torn between summit, thunder and arctius (formerly fennec)
Btw slide for lemmy just dropped. It still lacks community blocking. But it’s nice, similar to lift off.
What the deuce is FOSS
Free open source software
You better start believing in Foss…🏴☠️🦑🏴☠️ you’re in one
Isn’t summit proprietary?
I believe it is foss. But you can verify it if you like.
https://github.com/idunnololz/summit-for-lemmy/blob/main/LICENSE
the page on github only has the icon and the APKs, there is no source code. Perhaps the Apache licence is only applied to the icon? I don’t know… alternativeto.net marks it as proprietary
Ok, so there’s no definitive answer.
But nevertheless, I’ve been tinkering with infinity for lemmy and I think I will choose this as my main app for the moment.
In fact I am replying to you using infinity. I really do enjoy this app after I’ve finished customizing it, the settings took me more than 30 minutes because of the sheer number of combinations I had to try.
But after I finished setting up, it is a joy to use.
I have few to zero complaints with it
Is your community overview morking, for me it always gives an error recently
It really only gives me errors if the server is throwing errors
But it works on jerboa
Yeah, because why should app developers get paid, right? They should all code for free at their local public library. Maybe live in a big ceramic jar like Diogenes.
“Free” as in “freedom”, not price. There’s nothing stopping somebody from making money on FOSS.
Goddam Richard Stallman really screwed the PR up on that one with the “free” thing.
The F in FOSS stands for free, IIRC. The ability to access, use, share the code, etc. has more to do with the open source part of the acronym. I haven’t really seen anyone complain about Sync being closed sourced so far… Just that you have to pay not to see ads.
Ive only ever seen FOSS developers get support through donations. Which is nice and all, but likely not enough for an independent developer like ljdawson to survive on alone.
Dont get me wrong, I like FOSS apps too, but the experience almost always suffers to some degree; its easy to see why. I just don’t get why Sync is being singled out like some kind of evil tech monopoly lately. As far as I can tell, its just an individual developer who released a great app for free (yes with ads, you’re the product, blah blah blah) with an optional lifetime payment to disable ads completely.
Free refers to freedom, not price. No part of “FOSS” has anything to do with money or price.
Well then what’s the issue? Because every complaint I’ve seen so far has been about the optional monetary facet.
I think people are complaining about ads because ads imply tracking. I don’t know, I use Jerboa because I value the four freedoms, I’m not out here protesting non-free apps because the free apps work well enough for me.
AFAIK the way ad revenue works is dependent on trackers. Paying to remove ads on Sync also removes all trackers according to many people who have tested it; still seems to come down to not wanting to pay the developer.
Which is fine, of course. I just think framing the app as sketchy or something is completely misguided.
Are Sync Free and Sync Paid Edition separate apps? Because if not, you still have some ad publishers framework on your phone and running. I’d guess it’s Google, which means play services are required. That’s a big no-go for degoogled Linux users.
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When you figure out how to make a living writing FOSS let me know
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I wouldn’t sweat it too much, The fact that someone could make money on this gets in the way of their narrative.
I don’t really mind that sync is closed source you should be able to have the freedom to use whatever you want and all it is is more choice but I’ll be damned if I’m going to use it.
Like who? Making an actual living I mean, not just collecting small donations to ‘buy them a coffee’ or whatever.
Not saying you’re wrong, but some examples would be welcome.
Edit: Down voting me for asking a question, lol. Way to demonstrate your dedication to that free and open philosophy you apparently advocate for, folks.
Blender, Wikipedia, Linux, RedHat heck even the project you’re using right now: Lemmy
Ill admit im not very familiar with blender, linux, or redhat, so ill look into those – thank you.
My understanding is that nobody owns lemmy, rather people own the instances that make up lemmy. Which is definitely in the spirit of FOSS, but based on my understanding (happy to be proven wrong) I dont think its accurate to say the creators of Lemmy are making a living from it. You can donate to the admins of the instances you use, I suppose.
Likewise, isn’t the main source of income for Wikipedia donations? They ask me for one every time I’m on the site.
So other than semantics, what’s really the difference in making a donation to a service like Wikipedia, and paying for Sync? You can think of paying to remove ads as a donation if that helps, but the fact remains that lemmy is already available for free, and is much smaller than organizations like Wikipedia or Linux. Dude has got to eat.
Compleatly forgot to answer your other quesntion:
Yes the main income is donations. The difference is that you don’t need to pay if you can’t afford it and people who donate are generally paying more on average. The huge difference is that everyone has access to everything without paying.
Imagine what would happen if you would have to pay to use Wikipedia: nobody would use it. The content is made by users and if they would have made it a paid encyclopedia it wouldn’t have any users.
Nope. The devs make a living out of it. They work on Lemmy full time. They are sponsored by NLnet and are paid for every feature they implement
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Not writing, but building:
https://www.tindie.com/stores/bmoreautomation/
Open source hardware is a thing too. It’s not many sales now but I’m still in the prototyping phase and actively changing things.
And companies think free in open source as in free labor.
It’s more a limitation of the english language… No distinction between free as in beer or free as in freedom… We’re stuck with the same word
I’ve tried a few of the other apps, and didn’t like them that much. Sync is the first one I actually liked. Not sure if I want to pay for it, though
Okay, I won’t push you from Sync. But if you have the money to remove its ads, please also consider supporting Lemmy directly or indirectly (Mozilla, among other things, funded the effort to find and patch TootRoot before it became a problem). If you don’t want to just donate, switching to Mozilla VPN will also help.
You can have both!
In my experience you can have:
- Good app that is free with ads,
- Good app that is paid without ads,
- Shit to mediocre app that is free without ads.
I’ve tried many alternatives, but so far the intuitiveness and beautiful UX of Sync stand apart from the competition for me. I respect FOSS apps, and even prefer them in some cases. But let’s not pretend that its the best approach for every developer, or that anyone who releases a non-FOSS app is automatically greedy or sketchy.
I really don’t get the hate. Use whatever TF you want to and makes you happy. JFC.
The hate would stem from the utter spam of every possible fucking instance with “Hey, Sync is out and the fucking best!! Spend your money!”
Almost like people are excited about it
I like that people are excited about it. I like that people are excited about FOSS. I hate all the posts that try to tell people that one is better than the other.
The issue comes down to not everyone wanting to see the same content. I use sync and don’t care about seeing posts for it. Upvote, hide read, move on.
But if you don’t care about sync it can be understandably annoying. Everyone has different preferences
Paying for a product is not a bad thing, but yeah obviously there are issues with something not being FOSS…
Almost like they could all get excited in a mega thread… We did it for Musk spam.
Only $99.99 ! What a deal!
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Infinity rocks
Did you mean: Infinity Stones ?
I’m looking for a way to block communities. Does it have that, I only found user blocking option but not community blocking.
Trying it out rn. Very promising, very material and such charm
I have Sync and Thunder for now. I love thunder for the Flutter, but sync just works perfectly.
Maybe they’ll catch up someday, but I’m okay paying for software now and then.
I tried Sync, but Thunder has stolen my heart. Really happy with it and the development.
All this buzz and the app isn’t even FOSS!
Otoh, I’m like “finally some good fucking food”
Seeing the Sync for lemmy pricing, I just sent 20 USD to the Lemmy/Jerboa devs for offering all this for free!
I’m also a huge believer in open source. I’m using Infinity for Lemmy right now but I gladly paid for the ad removal in Sync. It genuinely is the best Lemmy app out right now. It just works and has so many customization options. Not to mention, since Sync uses Google for ads, when you remove the ads, the ad component isnt initialized so you remove the tracking. So nothing to worry about there either. 20$ lifetime for such an awesome app is totally fair for me. That’s my opinion, you are free to disagree.
Thanks for info about Google ads great to know
I used Sync for Reddit since alpha (back when it was Reddit Sync), so I gladly paid the $20 ad removal, even though I also happen to be juggling both Sync and Infinity right now. They’re both so good.
Sync had served me well on reddit. I don’t pay for Sync. Who audits open source apps?
Everybody theoretically. Nobody realistically
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There’s always that one other guy that looks briefly at the code for the small chance to point fingers at some unethical, malicious or dangerous practices.
No one really, for small projects. But am advantage is if the development turns for the worst then anybody that’s capable can fork it and go on another direction.
Who audits niche closed source apps like Sync?
Infinity for Lemmy just dropped, typing from it now.
Wefwef/voyager all the way Ü
Voyager has exceeded all of my expectations, it’s great!
Same here.
Wrong meme format if Sync is the one profiling you and the other apps are FOSS.
The way I see it, it fits very well: the hype surrounding Sync has also really seduced me. But the FOSS apps keep pulling me in a different direction. Just now I was thinking, I’ll just stay with Sync until Boost comes.
Now I am writing this message from Infinity.
Google’s ad service is the thing that’s profiling you. Sync dgaf.
I’m on thunder for the amazing design, ik it’s slow but I’m used to it cos of my crap internet
