• @[email protected]
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    102 years ago

    Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.

    I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.

    Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.

    Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.

    Oh Google.

    • @[email protected]
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      A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit

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        Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That’s the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.

        Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers

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            I live Valve, but there’s always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn’t help

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                No, Dolphin was their fault. Valve reached out to Nintendo before Dolphin was added to the store. If Valve hadn’t asked Nintendo for permission first, Nintendo probably would have said nothing

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                  -12 years ago

                  It makes sense though. People can already install Dolphin wherever they want, including the Steam Deck. But Valve probably thinks they can get Nintendo to publish on Steam. It wasn’t so long ago that Sony and Microsoft maintained exclusivility on their platforms. Valve doesn’t win anything allowing Dolphin on Steam, but it can potentially anger Nintendo.

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                  Nintendo is required by law to do something or else they run the risk of losing their trademarks.

            • Nils
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              Nintendo sent them a DMCA takedown request for the Dolphin Steam page. So I don’t think we can blame Steam for wanting to stay out of legal trouble

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                No. That is not at all what happened. No DMCA takedown notice was ever sent in this.

                What happened is that Dolphin applied to go on Steam and announced that. Then Valve emailed Nintendo asking for permission. Nintendo said they didn’t want it on the store, pointed to parts of the DMCA which were not actually valid for a theoretical case, and Valve blocked Dolphin from going on Steam

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                  You’re right.

                  Sorry, I just heard somewhere Nintendo sent a DMCA notice and assumed it was right because that seems like a Nintendo thing to do.

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              Valve is already evil: they locked down their steam client (unacceptable in the times of GOG, and Epic Games) and allow developers to put DRM in their games. Outside of that they were the pioneers of digital gambling with CS:GO and TF2 and using anti-features as a way to entice people to purchase micro-transactions.

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      Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.

      We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.

      Now it all sucks.

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬
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    32 years ago

    All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.

  • xerazal
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    32 years ago

    This is what neoliberalism does. It privatizes everything, including the individual. Everyone is a product. Everyone has a “brand”.

    • Milk
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      Right liberalism is about individual rights, economic freedom and freedom in general. Left-wing countries will give big tech more power cause they’ll have advantages over other companies and groups cause they have the money to pay for unnecessary laws that the left likes and they’ll be friends with the government. In countries even more on the left the problem will be the same but added that you won’t have any economic freedom and individual rights, small groups and companies will most likely not exist or die in the minute they’re created and you won’t be able to support them cause you basically doesn’t own your own money and the money will he spent on useless taxes that you supported. Your ideas give big tech power, you’re not the resistance but the perpetrator. Big techs have grown more and more as the world has become more leftist and you insist in not noticing the base of your mentality is helping big tech.

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        Right wing countries do this. What do you think South Korea is? “Economic freedom,” is freedom commensurate with economic power, which means freedom for people with money, and “personal responsibility” for people without. The opposite of government regulation of business is corporate domination of government. You’re conflating these opposites to falsely align organized labor with “big business.” The entire right-libertarian political project is a smokescreen for the Kochs and their economic class to baffle morons into thinking the policies they want benefit the little guy.

        • Milk
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          A company can only thrive above all others without good products is if it has support from the government or is a company owned by the government, right-wings want to reduce the State as much as possible while the left often wants to give the State more power. I don’t know how you think people having control of their money instead of giving it to the government for them to do whatever they want is some conspiracy by the corporations but you must note that the last thing a big company wants is that the people have choices and control over their own money, they want people to be babysitted by the government and that they’re their own choices. We act with the principle that anyone can be bad and the power can corrupt people so we work for the power to never be concentrated in the hand of one person or group.

            • Milk
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              We already live in a true capitalist society but it’s fastly leaning to the the left. People were happier in the past and capitalism was full on its tracks and countries were more conservative.

              • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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                are you talking about the years of economic prosperity in North America after the New Deal, the end of the second world war, and the establishment of the United Nations? are those the small government policies that created “real capitalism”? or are you talking about the decline and destruction of global communism at the hands of the Reaganite social order that immediately preceded a half century of malaise and the destruction of the working class? this conversation cannot produce anything for you if you cannot come to the realization. don’t wince. open your eyes and turn your head to the mirror, stupid american. the corn syrup teeth rotting out of your head are the reward they gave you for winning.

        • Milk
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          I really wish to know how people having total control over their lives is some evil capitalism conspiracy.

      • @[email protected]
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        Wow man, bet you think it’s the LGBTs fault too and that the EU is some leftist place with less freedom than the US.

        Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…

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          Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…

          ouch, right in the freedom 😁

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Why’s everything gotta be about money? Good things happen without it. Rain falls, feeds a fruit tree, makes a fruit, I eat it, poop out the seeds, new fruit tree grows. Money doesn’t fall from trees, but I can’t eat money.

        The whole system is poorly prioritized to protect people’s things instead of people. Even then it does a poor job and only protects the things that belong to those with the most things. It’s not even about those people, just their wealth, because if somebody else got their wealth no one would care about them anymore.

        I don’t care about communists or capitalists or any ists you can name. To hell with Mao and Thatcher and Lenin and Reagan and Trump and Biden. Fuck em. My question is why can we always find money for war, and for rich people to do stupid shit, but never enough for health care, or food for hungry children, or anything like that. Fuck anybody okay with hungry babies.

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          -12 years ago

          Eating and apple and pooping out the seeds might grow new trees, but none of those trees are likely to make apples like you ate.

          Money is a convenient way to trade your work or skills for someone else’s. Like the guy who grafts apple tree scions together to make the apples that taste good grow in their orchard.

          Now when the guy who knows how to grow hood apple trees decides he doesn’t want to compete against anybody else’s apples and squashes them, we have problems, and need rules to keep that from happening.

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            I found this list of true-to-seed fruits and vegetables I thought you might find interesting. I found it on The Spruce.

            Certain heirloom apples, such as Antonovka

            Polyembryonic mango seeds

            Lemon

            Lime

            Orange

            Peach

            Papaya

            Apricot

            Nectarine

            Heirloom tomatoes

            There are tons of other heirloom vegetables, I don’t know why they only mentioned tomatoes on their list but yeah.

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            I like how you equated money as a goal to money as a tool and that because the latter is a good idea then the first one must also be a good idea.

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      12 years ago

      Sadly even with furry porn, still a product. They forced everyone to be in some art AI dataset, it’s quite the downfall

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    I want to see the original too.

    Edit: Nevermind, it’s posted below. It’s really cringey.

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              We recently had trouble with the voicemail on a phone, and when we were talking to apple support over the phone, they mentioned that our phone had recently overheated but that wouldn’t have caused the problem. It was in the sun on our dashboard for a few minutes a week or 2 before.

              I wonder if that type of data could also be going into your interest rates if you apply for an Apple Card. Same with battery levels and drop events. I know that Chinese loan apps mine that data when approving loans, but don’t know if apple would use that data.