Culture war issues will never go away until people figure out where the real source of their pain comes from. It comes from the 1 percenters. It’s a class war. It always has been.
It’s far, far less than 1%. It’s more like the 0.0001%.
64 billionaires divided by 38 million people times 100 = 0.000168% of the population. I like where your head is at but 1 percenter is an old and inaccurate term.
Well yeah, but it’s easier to say 1%. Then explaining it’s actually fewer we have to eat that’s just a bonus.
Yeah but it’s wrong. The 1% don’t control all the companies and real estate, the billionaires do.
However The 1% are all a part of the bourgeoisie.
380 million, if you’re talking about the US.
While I think the rich are one of the most influential sources of it, I’m not convinced they’re the only or even the majority. Like, of the rich stopped using bigotry to divide people, would people stop being bigoted? I don’t think so at all. I think there’s something wrong with humanity that makes it easy for bigotry to evolve even in the absence of power and perhaps worse, for people to want to be bigoted.
If sapolsky is to be believed we have the natural inclination to view in- and out- group as part of our brain. Everything else is learned or a coping mechanism. I guess this is why people propose lived multiculturalism especially during childhood as a solution to xenophobia.
No matter if he can be believed or not on this fact the book is fun wiki
If the culture war is the class war then the class war is the culture war. Dealing with the culture war is often many many times more actionable. We can and should deal with both.
Culture War is used by the Ruling class to distract from the Class war, the only way to win the Culture War is to win the Class War.
Ok but I don’t have to not defend trans people to be anticapitalist. It isn’t a “distraction” it is a front, to extend the war analogy.
The attitude arguing the culture war doesn’t exist doesn’t mean you are above it, it just mean you are abandoning your comrades who are under attack.
class war is way more fun, just look at tf2!
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Hm… When I woke up this morning I did not expect to see a Diebels-Alt-bottle in a meme today…
Rich people have always had the freedom to be who they are. You think wealthy gay men were beaten up in back alleys? Maybe they couldn’t announce it to the world but they pretty much got to live their lives in peace. When you don’t have to work to survive and when the world bends to your will it’s amazing how culture doesn’t seem to effect you so harshly anymore.
It’s not that culture isn’t important. It’s that the ability to live in peace for who you are tends to come automatically when you have your living taken care of.
It would help if leftist identitarians weren’t constantly purity spiraling.
They are the ones that coopted and undermined Occupy Wallstreet back in the day.
OWS was run by anarchists. They had zero goals or leadership, and they actually seemed proud of that fact. It’s kind of mind-boggling that they thought they could accomplish anything by simply camping out indefinitely.
In view of that, I really can’t blame the identitarians for trying to co-opt. If they had won, there would’ve at least been goals and an agenda, instead of…sitting in tents all day.
Identitarian goals are lib goals, it would have changed nothing the same way Rainbow Oreos change nothing
“Culture war” = “issues that don’t affect me personally”.
Yeah, class reductionism will only ever lead to more oppression of those already marginalised.
If your leftism doesn’t include intersectionality, you’re doing it wrong.
(to be clear - “culture wars” are a right winged distraction, but they are based on very real and massively impactful systems of oppression that they are trying to maintain, ignoring this only enables them, and guarantees those systems will remain even if we get economical change)
If your leftism doesn’t include intersectionality, you’re doing it wrong.
Similarly, if your intersectionality doesn’t include leftism, it’s literally worse than useless because it functionally works to maintain the underlying material conditions that served to create whatever social injustice you are fighting.
This also is true, yes.
This is the right take, IMO. Labelling race, gender etc issues as “diversions” has the same flavour as “I know the slaves are oppressed, but freeing them doesn’t end capitalism, does it?”
The diversion is the idea of rainbow capitalism. For example: fighting for the right for people of any identity to own slaves is not a valid goal and also won’t “free the slaves.” Ending slavery is the goal. Rainbow capitalism acts as a shell game to divert energy toward token concessions and labels them victories. Anti-racism and feminism should be (and I would say, are) at the core of any coherent flavor of leftism, but diverse oppression is still oppression and a rainbow flag on a Raytheon missile is not a win.
Edit: should have read the comment further down. Said what I meant but with gooder words.
I definitely don’t equate intersectionality with culture war, but I think it’s important to understand why capitalism has adopted intersectionality in the specific way it has. A lot of the debates about it on the left seem to be rooted in conflating intersectionality with how it’s commodified. Like you can think Robin D’Angelo is ridiculous without throwing intersectionality out the window.
All the big names I’ve seen labeled class reductionists are basically involved with diversity and intersectionality at some level, and openly express their support of those sort of initiatives, or have actually benefitted from them and admit it. Adolph Reed had a great example of when they were negotiating their collective agreement the EDI commitments were one of the first thing signed off and agreed to, but it took them a year of arbitration to get more sick days or something like that. It’s the same with my union as well. It just shows how capital is not against EDI or intersectionality, they’re against exploiting people less.
Its our job to turn the Culture War into Class War by showing how the Cultural injustices are caused by Class Oppression.
Yeah as a culture war target I don’t have anymore choice in being a part of the war than Ukraine does. I don’t get to opt out, and people can say, “Just don’t fight the culture war, fight the class war,” and it’s like, dude, you’re telling the majority of your potential allies to fuck off and die so you can charge a pillbox solo. It ain’t gonna go well.
“Culture wars” = divide and conquer
The funny thing is you’re both right.
Somebody has got to fighting the War on Christmas (on the side of warring against Christmas).
If locking up short people in green uniforms and making them work in my toy factory for life is wrong, I don’t want to be right.
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No war but class war.
