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Can you make it more ugly and prone to mechanical failure for no gain.
And more expensive while you’re at it, thanks.
Best we can do is never actually release it.
Put your pre-order in now!
I wouldn’t say no gain. I would love that real estate on my bedside stand I use with physical disability. I would not want the sub 17" form factor and keyboard though. I struggle to do anything super technical without a second screen which is a pain in the ass. I can’t sit at a desktop and the ergonomics of a laptop are unbeatable in my situation.
It looks like when it’s extended it adds a second screen. But it’s vertical, one on top of the other. I feel like doing it horizontally would be more natural to use. Baby steps, I guess.
I have a monitor on a custom made arm that sits above my laptop when I need a second screen.
It works well in a tight space like in a board meeting at a conference table or plane seat. Vertical doesn’t make a real difference in my experience. You just need two spaces that do not move so that you can quickly reference multiple documents and keep your place between them.
Good point. I was thinking of best use case, but really whatever works will do.
The fuck would you even do with a taller screen?
If you are a developer, writing code, the taller screen helps.
My three monitor set up is two landscape monitors on the sides of one glorious portrait monitor for my code.
Taller porn…
Just a huge portrait screen to to doom scroll through Facebook reels and instagram stories probably
The no gain part I’ll argue against. Having two browser windows open and getting to see both would be really nice a ton of times. Or one browser and a document/pdf whatever.
Like having a Netflix show running up top while doing work on the bottom half. Or writing a paper while having reference material open and visible. Or simply just reading an article without having to scroll as often.
Usage wise, a tall screen would have tons of usage. I just wouldn’t pay an extra $2,000+ for the privilage of it. I’d definitely pay like an extra 20% or so to have it, though.
I have a lenovo external usb-c monitor.
I love it. Use it every day. It’s great.
I’d never buy this rolling screen gimmick.
I’d never want to carry around a 2nd monitor or find a place to set it when using a "lap"top. A 2nd monitor is great for a desktop.
That’s fine, you do you and all that.
The thing is, laptops haven’t been "lap"tops for many years. Many workplaces have infrastructure where you carry your laptop around and dock it into your desktop monitors & peripherals at your desk.
I personally really like to work at our public library. In my backpack I have the laptop, monitor, keyboard, and mouse. It’s a really great set up and I can be just as productive as I am in my home office.
No. Laptops are still laptops. You’re just choosing not to use them as such. In fact, they’re more lap friendly now than they originally were. With how you describe using yours, you should just have a mini pc instead of a laptop.
Sure. How silly of pretty much every office in the world to issue employees with laptops instead of mini PC’s.
Walk in to a library or Cafe anywhere in the world and you’ll see laptops, on desks and not on laps.
Yeah, and how many libraries you see with laptops on em and people with second monitors attached that people also carry? People put them on desks at libraries because libraries provide large desks. That doesn’t give you an extra amount of monitor.
I had thought when I posted that to put ‘no justifiable gain’ but did not for some reason, maybe it ruined the flow but with hindsight and as you and others have explained perhaps it should be there.
Probably. As you originally wrote it, it just looks like you think the screen is pointless.
I do think it is a bit gimmicky and the problem it seeks to address could be more practically solved in other more conventional ways, but it is an attempt and a first iteration and has merit for that and who knows where it will end up, maybe all our screens will expand and contract like the windows within them one day.
Solved in what other ways? Having a portable laptop you have to carry around with a 2nd monitor and find a place to set up is a pain if you actually do stuff on the go and aren’t just using your laptop to move from like a desk at home to a desk at your office.
Oh there’ll be gain. But not for the user.
Yeah I can, add a hinge and swivel so it can go widescreen too
slaps screen
you can fit so much “AI” in this bad boy
More like:
Slaps Screen:
Screen flashes in colors only a Mantis Shrimp can see before folding in half and going black…
Bring back the trackpoint you bastards !
They didn’t take the TrackPoint away, did they?!
Edit: They really did… Way to kill a brand guys. I blame every goddamn tech journalist who wanted it gone, fuck you so much.
I blame every goddamn tech journalist who wanted it gone
Weird if heir PMs and such really believed people who are clearly companies’ PR and not representation of anything real, instead of focus groups.
It really seems like every other review of a ThinkPad is written by someone who’s constantly whining about the dimensions of the device (too thick, to bulky) and/or the design, with most of them ending up begging Lenovo to remove the useless nub thing on the keyboard because no one uses it anyways and while they’re at it a larger touchpad and better speakers and bla bla…
Basically, most reviewers expect everything to be a MacBook clone and can’t cope with the fact that business users don’t necessarily care about a fancy design.
The reasons old ThinkPads were are better than MacBooks (except for being old) are about design too.
For me ThinkPads are beautiful and convenient, while MacBooks are ugly and inconvenient.
Most people simply don’t have an opinion of their own, they get theirs from “social media influencers” (something that once meant the leaders of that clueless crowd, usually bribed by companies, and now means in fact not separate humans, but teams, employed by companies).
And that’s where Apple shined, it really managed to promise apes a lift in status by backing them. Almost a Fender Stratocaster level feeling. Not just that, if you do some digital archaeology, you’ll find that around year 1999 many people seriously considered Apple to be some kind of counterculture, underground etc thing. That doesn’t work anymore, because Steve Jobs lost the battle against his own ignorance and died, but frankly I think it stopped working after iPhone. Wrong kind of propaganda and wrong kind of audience to be compatible with the old image.
Still that image was rather strong. One can still sometimes find traces of it. Hotline and KDX software, and that idea of convenience of GUI programs.
We need track points on handheld PCs. Are they patented?
No, as far as I know the first GPD Win had one even
It’s the thinkpad x9 for anyone that wondered the model.
RIP nubbin
And the three buttons!
Can they make laptops with hinges that don’t break?
They can, my x230’s hinges are still good
They’re completely out of ideas.
I’d be happy with a gaming laptop that doesn’t have hinges that break.
Lenovo might turn your hinge into a screen but giving you a hinge that works is to complicated.
I have a better idea: a laptop screen that is legible on a sunny day
so eink pretty much though the refresh rate is shit
Funny you should say that because Lenovo made a laptop with an e-ink screen (as graciously linked by someone else in this thread) about a year ago. But it never came to my market, and I suspect this rollable one won’t either. I don’t think they’re serious about selling any of these, it’s just marketing gimmicks.
Short rolling demo from the article https://youtube.com/watch?v=ibpaLkvBXQY
Oh wow, the wrinkles would drive me nuts.
Also, why extend it vertically?
Lmao they really put a coffee cup alongside it, as if unrolling your laptop display like this at a Starbucks would be perfectly normal
Lenovo is really good at turning the coolest technology into absolutely useless laptops.
I want a laptop with a trackpoint, keyboard with good (like Model M) key travel and resistance (and water resilience too), color e-ink display (preferably 5:4 or 4:3 screen ratio) with good refresh rate, everything removable, 5G modem, GPIO, additional SSD slot, good set and amount of interfaces (not an Apple fan), and - important - chassis and hinges not made of shit.
Just in case somebody from Lenovo is lurking here.
like Model M
Imagine a laptop with a low-profile buckling spring keyboard… just click-clacking away in Starbucks, annoying everyone around you but you don’t care because you have the greatest keyboard ever
They can be silent too, so not even that problem.
Also where I sometimes go with a laptop, nobody will hear the click-clacking.
Not to mention it would weigh about 2kg more than a normal laptop due to the steel plates.
I totally wouldn’t mind that. My daily driver keyboard is an XT Model F lmao
How does that work on the software side? I guess you can only slide it out fully, will that part be black while it comes up and then your display automatically changes resolution?
Adaptive screen resolution? Maybe like how phones can auto rotate the image? But less annoying hopefully. Sounds like a future feature if this type of thing takes off.
Edit: Whatching the demo in the article, it looks like they’re adding a screen when it’s extended. Like having another monitor.
There’s a video in the article showing it working
Why?
Bigger screen without bigger form factor?
Bring back the unfolding keyboard (and the gummy trackpoint). 😂
People hating on this but as someone who codes on the road I’d legit buy it if not the price tag. The vertical space is incredible!
Same. I love vertical real estate
Same. A lot of people in here are definitely not the target market. Taller screens are always better for coding. I also think for just general multitasking too. You can have secondary windows up top or on the bottom but you can make the main thing your working on bigger than what it would be on a standard 16:9/10 monitor which is great.
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Maybe get that patent sorted out quickly?
I would but I don’t even know where to start. I don’t know how to use CAD software and I can’t draw for shit. Even if I could, what next? I have no networking skills.
imagine making a laptop case for that
It’s just a 14" laptop.
I have a 15.6" laptop, but I had to reinstall the foreskin, so I’m down to 14" now… ☹️
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