Why are non-European countries even allowed to participate?
All countries associated with the European Broacast Union can participate.
Brazil, Peru, Japan, India, and even China and the US could participate too.
Russia and Lybia used to be part of the EBU but they were suspended. They know what they did.
Because Australia were mega fans, so they invited us :3
Are we going to be called anti-Semitic?
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This is genius!
Jesus Christ, yes please!
As a European, I think it would be pretty funny if, after Brexit, the other parts of the former Empire joined the EU.
But at least right now, membership is probably more of a meme - some solid cooperation and shared institutions would be amazing, though.
EU already said this can’t work. It said in the rules only European countries can join the EU. But something can be worked out, no doubt.
EuropeanWorldwide UnionGlobalists but for real this time.
Membership of the European Economic Area - same as Norway - for example.
Comes with being part of the EU Internal Market, Freedom Of Movement (both ways, of course) and exceptions in a couple of areas (such as fishing rights not being decided by the EU, which I suspect is something that Canada would rather have) but without voting power within the EU.
Canada becomes a France province, easy.
Or France becomes a Canadian one and switch to English as the primary official language. It would solve a ton of issues and I’m sure the French would be okay with it.
It’s been ok so far in Canada.
Wait…
Where did they get all those torches and pitchforks so fast?
You have to be “substantially European”, which includes Cyprus, which is fully in Asia and half Turkish. Also, Greenland and to a degree Iceland aren’t geographically European.
Neither Greenland nor Iceland are in the EU.
No, but French Guiana is, and it’s in South America.
kind of
Ah shit, you’re right about Iceland. I thought it was for some reason.
Greenland like usual has no data (because WTF is it really? Independent? A territory?). Denmark definitely is, though, and Greenlanders presently get the full benefits of that.
Well, if Canada can take part in the Eurovision song contest, they might as well join the EU.
Everyone knows supreme executive power is derived from Eurovision.
Fucking Celine Dion
Well, we do share a land border with Denmark. Sooooo…. we’re practically European already!
And France (Saint Pierre) I think? Thanks CBC Gem!
Saint Pierre and Miquelon, right by Newfoundland. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon
That’s a sea border, but the idea is the same.
In fact, the distance between the shores of Newfoundland and St. Pierre and Miquelon is shorter than the width of the English Channel at the Straits of Dover (25km vs 34km).
Don’t get me wrong I’m all for it but by this logic we can also include South America (French Guyana), central America (Caribbeans) all Pacific Islands (French Polynesia), Africa (too many to list), Indian subcontinent (la reunion) and Oceania (nouvelle Caledonie).
I look forward to Hawaii joining the EU :D
We share a land border on the recently divided Hans Island.oops misread the threading
Let’s just rename the EU to “United Earth” like in Star Trek, since Australia is practically in it already on account of being in Eurovision.
That way we don’t need to change the initials, just swap them.
Earth United would be better, no need to even change the merch.
That’s the soccer team.
They always lose on penalties to fuckin Mars, man
The refs are such hacks. If they weren’t on the take from MarsX Mining Co. those marties wouldn’t stand a chance against us.
Of course, all of these variations will still be different/inverted in french, which is already in the Union Européenne (UE) today.
I mean we did kinda get our asses kicked in 1812 after we started a war the president would later say we were unprepared for.
How about the US just becomes provinces 14-64? I’ll gladly take anything else.
Nah sorry we’re not taking the red states. They can be their own Christofascist hell elsewhere.
Can I raise you the proposal of Canada and Jesusland
this looks like a dragon head with cat / dragon torso and cat legs
Indeed, I like that map.
Alaska needs to be integrated though, don’t want another Kaliningrad.
Good point, but it’s an F’n red state.
make a list of the ones y’all want we can work out a deal
So just all of new england, the pacific northwest and California.
California already goes to Denmark though
You want more convoys? Ingesting the US will give you nothing but cancer. If it’s not a city or a suburb, you’re just absorbing indoctrinated fascism. It’s pervasive.
Yea, I’ll take the top 20.
Mexico can take the bottom 30
#canadentry
I’m not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it’s some sort of gotcha. It doesn’t mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.
The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.
It’s not about being a “gotcha” - it’s about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.
You’re right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:
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Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.
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Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it’s “too complex” or “un-Canadian” becomes much harder to maintain.
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Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.
The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don’t extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.
The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.
I get what you are saying, but the UK joined the EU with FPTP voting and left the EU because of FPTP. So while I agree that exposure might change things I do doubt it.
From all I’ve having lived in a couple of countries in the EU (including the UK), exposure to Proportional Vote in the EU Parliament Election seems to have zero impact on people wanting it for other election, maybe because EU MPs are too far away from most people and don’t really get all that much news coverage, unlike the national politics of a country.
Mind you, personally exposure to Proportional Vote when I was living in The Netherlands has definitely made my mind in favour of it, especially after I moved to Britain and was exposed to their shit-show FPTP voting system (worse than my own country of Portugal which as multi-representant electoral circles, so way less Democratic than PR but nowhere as bad as FPTP).
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Because it’s a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it’s done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.
England, Wales and Scotland had EU PR elections for 15 years, but England still rejected PR at referendum.
A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.
My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)
I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”
Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.
There would be voting changes , I believe, something about EU membership requiring a certain type of voting system. Eg. Not FPP
Hungary’s system is half proportional, half FPP on steroids, but it’s just as bad as FPP since our FPP lets the winner not just take the seat, but also extra votes into the proportional part of the race.
So, no, the EU is fine with everything, the only thing is that EU citizens have to be able to vote in local elections wherever we live, regardless of citizenship. That means if you join, and I rent a place in Toronto and move in, I get a vote for the Toronto mayor on day one.
Might be some geographical issues (perhaps of the ocean variety) with this proposal
Well, Ireland is separated from the rest of the continent by ocean. Canada is just a slightly bigger island, slightly further away…
There is French territory just off the coast of Newfoundland too (see Saint Pierre and Miquelon), also Denmark is right next door because of Greenland. So while still pretty far fetched, there is some precedent for European territory in North America.
Canada shares a land border with Greenland on Hans Island.
Ireland is separated from the rest of the continent by ocean.
The Celtic Sea is not an ocean.
By that logic then Vancouver Island isn’t an island because the Juan de Fuca is a strait not an ocean
They didn’t say Ireland wasn’t an island because of it… But, for the record, Canada isn’t an island anyway so…
¯\_(ツ)_/¯I wasn’t awake when I wrote that but I still think they meant to imply it doesn’t make it an island. Poor reader here I guess.
Maybe canada can be the first member of a post-European EU. I guess we’ll need a new name.
Earth United!
Sounds like a football club that has no one to play against.
Cyprus is already the first non-European EU member.
White supremacist imperialist conglomerate (non-US version)?
Once again, we are forced to raise the lingering question: Are Italians White?
new caledonia and french guiana are laughing it up from the southern hemisphere
Guys guys guys, let’s be good friends with the EU, let’s even adopt some of their best policies, but honestly, they also have some baggage we don’t need.
Believe me, we don’t want Orban either…
I just want to be sovereign. How is that so hard for people to understand?
EU members are all sovereign, brexiter.
I’m Canadian.
No, I understand that. I was making a rhetorical point. You’re making the same uninformed argument that was behind brexit.
Username checks out.
Ya both those prospects seem “Colonial”
Worth it.
Why not? I would vote yes to allow Canada into the EU.
I’m super jealous because I’ve wanted to have Canadian citizenship since back in my late teens / early adulthood when I realized that there was already a version of America that actually lived up to American ideals and which offered same-sex marriage as well as universal healthcare. That weed and apparently codeine are legal there make it so much more bittersweet.
The only people I’ve known personally to get citizenship are those who married a Canadian citizen. Which sucks for me because I’m already happily partnered and there’s no way I’d give that up for anything, not even Canadian citizenship, awesome and appealing as it is.
Maybe if/when the US invades, if we fight for Canada they’ll give us citizenship.
FWIW I obviously don’t have the power to approve that but I would certainly vote to make that a thing!
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I had an American friend who married a Canadian. It took SO much work to get her permanent resident card, like a lawyer and everything.
Unfortunately, Canada has MAID, and also likes to deny healthcare to natives in the hopes that they will just die.
Fortunately, Canada has MAID. Unfortunately, Canada has MAID in place of meaningful care.
Shocking. Do you have a source for that?
Thank you so much for linking that! I really appreciate it. Usually a lot of people get mad when I ask for a source. I just wanna learn!
Legal marriage and having a life partner are not the same thing. I’ll marry you and my partner will marry your partner, no big deal.
Yes please, I will vote to support this.
Can we Philadelphians join?
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Any reasons why these two neighborhoods go against the grain? Are they the posh suburbs?
As someone from a South Jersey suburb of Philly: take me with you!
No, you guys know what you’ve done
