Imagine my surprise reading this on the LA Times this morning (emphasis mine):

“I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”

Here is an archive of the article.

Here is his account.

It looks like he only stayed on Lemmy for about a month, most likely a temporary Reddit exile with the earliest exodus on June 2023. The article mentions threads on Reddit but doesn’t provide any quotes from there. User IndictEvolution on Reddit deleted their account, and the article makes it sound like they are referring to a different username that they don’t specify.

    • gaystyleJoker [she/her]
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      4423 days ago

      wtf? being a domestic terrorist is not against lemmy.world rules as long as you don’t do it on the site…

    • @[email protected]
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      Man this will probably hurt the amateur chemistry community due to overreacting crackdowns, even though this is one guy who was part of that community and plenty of other people have done bombings without any interest whatsoever in amateur chem. I do think the community needs more moderation given how frequently I see dumbasses on reddit doing some extremely dangerous shit without realizing it, but this will probably get any discussion of fun chemistry banned everywhere.

    • ZephyrXero
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      Wow. Now there’s a bunch of people who should never have been born. Too bad they’ve gotta make it everyone else’s problem

  • @[email protected]
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    The next terrorist to come from lemmy better not be another edgy fash loser. Do better.

        • @[email protected]
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          622 days ago

          attempted to ignite a large propane tank and set our ( pro profit detention center) buildings on fire"

          Spronsen said that “it’s time to take action against the forces of evil”, citing “highly profitable detention/concentration camps and a battle over the semantics”.

          Dude was a carpenter too. Is this what they call based?

        • @[email protected]
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          222 days ago

          That was quite a read. Going to need to watch some youtube on this but concerned it may lead certain names going up on “The list”

    • @[email protected]
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      I disagree. terrorism and accelerationism are not needed and do more harm than good. The idea that you can just commit political violence and solve your problems is too tempting to angry people, who then believe that the actually successful tactics like organizing are not necessary. It’s taking the easy way out and usually just turns more people against you.

      Of course, violence to protect people from the violence of the fascists is entirely acceptable and to be lauded.

      • @[email protected]
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        2022 days ago

        I think they’re joking lol

        Well, some adventurism seems to have some positive effect though. Look at how taking down the UHC pig is being received by the public. Could be used to radicalise some people perhaps

    • @[email protected]
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      722 days ago

      Must be pretty embarrassing for .ml that shitlib central got a terrorist before they did, ngl.

  • smokeppb [he/him]
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    “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”

    kills one and injures 4 others

    I got a funny feeling this guy doesn’t actually care about consent.

    • @[email protected]
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      We’ll have to push back with pointing to the decentralized nature of the fediverse, and that there’s gonna be crazies on some instances. I always use email as an analogy when explaining Lemmy, maybe we could continue that and argue you wouldn’t blame all of email infrastructure if an extremist had a gmail or Hotmail or whatever.

      Actually now that I read that, it just might be more confusing. But there’s gotta be a counter angle to argue to get ahead of people thinking “Lemmy=bad”

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        Also even if the cops shut down world, people will just … move. Like yours and my instances don’t even have the word “lemmy” in the domain. I don’t think anyone would care beyond “we shut down that radical forum.”

        Though most likely is it goes completely unnoticed and some bombing or shooting or human rights abuse next week will shoves it down the memory hole for good.

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          some bombing or shooting or human rights abuse next week will shoves it down the memory hole for good.

          Next week? Try last night in DC. I’m doubting this will even register tbh

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          It’s funny because even of the people I know, it’s actually like “lemmy=what?” Even of the people I’ve talked to about it.

          They’re so painfully disinterested, they usually tune out after the first five words of my fediverse elevator pitch.

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          It would not bode well for the future of discourse if lemmy.world of all places gets shut down for radicalism. Our instance is significantly more radical than lemmy.world. Can you imagine some ecofascist idiot who posted on slrpnk.net a couple times committing a terror attack and getting the instance taken down? I can, which is why this news should be very concerning.

          Edit: Just looked through some of the bomber’s comments and their replies and some users even pointed out that his rhetoric was reminiscent of ecofascism. Anti-natalism and ecofascism are ideological siblings. The backlash to this attack is going to catch environmentalist groups in the crossfire, with many environmental activists being accused of having anti-natalist views. Anyone who’s ever advocated for degrowth might get lumped in with them.

          • turtle [he/him]OP
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            221 days ago

            I agree, you have very good points. I don’t particularly think that him having posted for about a month two years ago on a particular instance is any particular mark against that instance, as I think that that could have happened to many (but perhaps not all) Lemmy instances. Good point about backlash hitting eco activists too.

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    Damn Axis.world made a domestic terrorist before Us

    I guess we cant call ourselfs the most dangerous instance anymore obama-sad

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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      I mean lemmy.world aims to be Reddit 2, and reddit had jailbait, fatpeoplehate, the_donald, keeps Gamergate subreddits open, r/conspiracy, and so many more horrid things kept up because it made more clicks.

      So why wouldn’t lemmy.world keep an active terrorist on board? Think of the potential money to be made.

  • @[email protected]
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    Fucking wild that Lemmy made it on mainstream news… of course it had to be some stormfrontian to get it to that stage…

    • Stern
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      If I had to choose between a bomber and something like r/jailbait (which was the medias first big look at reddit) as the sites big first exposure to the world, I’m going for the bomber every time.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    Yeah but see Hexbear is actually the violent extremist instance not the Rational Centrist instance of lemmy dot world. Or something I dunno I have a brain

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    lmao, the only mod action on his account was removing him as the mod of [email protected] three days ago, after he was already dead.

    Which was the day after the bombing, FBI must have been up LW’s ass pretty quick.

      • @[email protected]
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        Up until now I thought anti-natalism was nonviolent. Now they’ve got their own Unibomber.

    • turtle [he/him]OP
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      1523 days ago

      That seems very minor. I wonder if it was just a coincidence. Someone pointed out in another comment here that he’s still the moderator in a couple of other communities.

  • 小莱卡
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    Malthusians, you want to stop new births and yet you don’t target Elon Musk, who coincidentally is also a billionaire? Smh.

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      Yeah what the hell. We know why but the lack of targeting Edgelord Khan is wild. It really says alot lol. melon-musk