Pfft, you think we invaded everyone for spices to eat them? Absolutely not. We did it so that we could sell them to the French, thereby making the French poorer by exploiting their degenerate addiction to food that tastes nice
Your comment made me wanna google the two economies and related stats. They’re a lot more Similar than I expected. Pretty cool. So I guess UK’s plan failed? xD unless France used to be richer.
While I was joking, of course, France’s economy actually was quite a lot more bigger and more powerful than the UK’s up until the industrial revolution and the about a century of everything going very badly for France. France was the most populous country in Europe by a wide margin, and back then that basically was the whole economy. It has quite a lot more land than the UK, and that land is a lot more productive too; the north of Wales and most of Scotland do not make for good farmland. Unlike Germany and Italy it united and centralised quite early, and it just outweighed Spain and the Low Countries the same way it did the UK, so for a long time France had the edge over all of its neighbours.
During the Napoleonic wars, France managed to raise forces that matched the UK, Prussia, Austria, and Spain combined in number. Some of that was due to other factors like how he organised it, but you’ve still got to have the people available somewhere if you want to match four major powers at once
That website is so neoliberal brained it makes me want to puke.
“Property Rights Index” “Investment Freedom Index”
What’s next? “Oppression of Working Classes Index”
I was going to post deep fried Oreos, but I think this takes the cake.
Mmm… Deepfried Oreo butter cake… 🤤
Go to Scotland and taste the joys of a deep fried Mars bar, now you’re talking!
Have some deep fried pizza as an appetiser.
Deep fried Mars bars taste better when you are not eating them, if that makes any sense. The anticipation is good, eating it is pretty gross, then after you are tempted to get another one.
Deep Fried Beer is a pretty good one, too. Not very tasty, though…
Dear god, this shit is why I support Texas becoming independent
Hmmmmm… roast butter… /drool
Minnesota had deep fried ranch at the state fair last year.
Why eat your butter raw when you can deep-fry it?
There’s also Fried Coke, which was invented by the same guy
Imagine if we deep fried stuff in pure crude oil. 🤢
Forbidden flavor
Can’t do it for chicken, it’s forbidden in Da Book, though shalt not boil a kid in its mother’s milk, etc
We call that the gulf special!
Not the same kind of oil lol. Do not fry your food in petroleum
You’re not my dad, if I want to fry my chicker nuggers in the black sticky icky I will!
You can’t call them that dude 😳
Honestly at this point if people want to try this I’m not gonna stop them.
It’s a joke
Big if true
Chicken tikka masala would like a word.
Was gonna say, didn’t the Brits basically invent some curry dishes? Still, there ain’t any British restaurants, tells me what I need to know.
I mean if you take it seriously we do have plenty of good and interesting food, both in traditional and modern cuisine. Hot spice isn’t often a part of it, but there’s lots of usage of herbs and milder spices. Laverbread, black pudding, haggis (yes, seriously), Worcestershire sauce, and Cornish herby pasty are all solid examples of very traditional foods that are pretty seasoning-forward without even touching the enormous amount of stuff we picked up from other cultures (like the curries)
That’s not to say that we don’t frequently earn our terrible culinary reputation. We do. Next to our neighbours like France, Spain, and Italy we just do not have the same level of widespread passion for food, and our habits reflect this. A general lack of adventurousness plagues our palates on a national level
My favourite part of British food is the way it has merged with foreign food, like the curry dishes for example.
That does also mean there aren’t any British restaurants since they are usually labelled with the culture that shows there is actual flavour and not the culture famous for eating wartime food in the 21st century…
I would say that British restaurants are pubs. Things like pie and chips, burgers, bangers and mash, shepherd’s pie etc. Or maybe a carvery with roast dinner. Or fish and chips places (although that’s not exactly a restaurant)
We do have restaurants, but yes a pub meal is a big thing.
Well, there’s no “British cuisine” per se, but there are British restaurants. For example a pretty famous and influential one. Also, most pubs serve food and those are now pretty much everywhere in the world, that’s quite British, isn’t it? Dunno the history, but I always associated it with the Brits, maybe I’m wrong.
That the name of their unofficial national dish is in Persian/Hindi also suggets something, but I’m sure I don’t know what…
Colonization. But that was the insinuation of the post, that they colonized the world and have nothing to show for it. But in reality there is a lot of cultural exchange that happened.
Pretty sure it was an Indian immigrant
Most “American” foods were brought by immigrants too.
The British national dish is curry.
That’s the Indian national dish, and Britain got so mad about losing the empire they stole it.
There’s plenty of British-created curries or ones that have been heavily modified in the UK. If you went to India and wanted a tikka masala. I imagine it would be pretty hard to find one, and if you did it wouldn’t be like it was in the UK.
Personally I do prefer Indian curries because they get more interesting with the veggie ones though.
According to that logic, Pizza Hawaii is an Italian specialty
I understand why Europeans don’t like pineapple pizza, for some reason all the restaurants here put it on after baking. Genuinely insane
Stole it? I think adopted is more apt. And curry isn’t one thing and varies from region to region in India. But Britain loved it so much that there is an Indian (or Pakistani) restaurant practically everywhere. And while Indian / Pakistani chefs have invented new dishes (e.g. chicken chasni is the best goddamned curry ever), I wouldn’t call it cultural appropriation.
That’s the Indian national dish
Uh, no it isn’t…
Yes it is. It’s a chicken tikka masala specifically.
Peak sarcasm. I love it.
See, they stole it so thoroughly you don’t even know.
Bastards.
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I thought Americans thought English Mustard was far too spicy.
Americans are borderline obsessed with hotsauces and spicy food, though. IME, the pushback about english mustard is usually the same as with vegemite - its too easy to use way too much, and thus obliterate the flavours of the rest of the dish. (Plus it doesn’t pair super well with a lot of regional menus). In many restaurants (diners) there’s always at least tobasco sauce next to the salt and cracked black pepper, and nowadays most have a selection of hot sauces on the table to choose from.
American food can get spicy/spiced as hell
Most american stereotypes I understand or even represent (fat white guy with too many guns here) but I’ve never understood the “american food is bland” thing - I can’t think of a region of the US internally known for bland food. Even the Hot Dish parts of the country strive for bold flavors. Why the hell do you think we’re all so fat, if not because we have so much good food to tempt us into excess?
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Mormonville, as a theocracy, doesn’t count as America. It is categorized as a malignant internal growth.
yeah, but they’re known for jello. you eat that at the hospital
And the entire Midwest outside of big cities. Food has to white.
A lot of the boomer food trends are taken from depression recipes and are very bland by today’s standard. Shit like steamed veg with no seasoning or six thousand types of casserole with no seasoning. It took me literally two decades after moving out to convince my father to salt steak before grilling, and I am still working on getting him to salt tomatoes for burgers.
The Midwest?
Depends on where in the Midwest. It’s a big place.
My partner’s small hometown has a few local dishes. One is a Cream of Chicken soup Sandwich, which is awful IMHO, and seasonal fall apple spiced doughnuts, which are fucking amazing.
My town is a foodie heaven, but an hour away in any direction, and you better like fries and burgers, because that’s all there is.
American food relies far too much on capsaicin for making things spicy. There are other spices too.
I guess? The alternatives to capsaicin (mustard, garlic, horseradish, etc) are all pretty overwhelming flavors, so if you want things even moderately pungent they’re the only thing you’re going to be tasting in a dish. I personally loathe the taste of most hot peppers (but love spicy food) so the trend of "spicy everything" is getting pretty tiresome.
So why are you so scared of English mustard?
I’ve never heard of English mustard, but I don’t Americans as a whole are afraid of spicy mustard.
I was taking the piss.
I know some USAians like spicy sauces, on chicken wings for example. There’s also the guy I used to work with who said his favourite meal was lamb and vegetables with gravy. The most vanilla thing on earth.
Meanwhile in Scotland, they deep fry fucking chocolate.
Scot’s deep fry everything. Deep fried Mars bar is amazing.
That sounds painful
USAians be like: amateurs
British people love curries and other spicy things. For most people curries, biriyanis are going to be in the rotation. Even “traditional” British food will usually have things like black pepper, nutmeg, mace, ginger, cumin, cloves, mustard, bay leaves, juniper berries in it. More recently cumin, paprika, tumeric, coriander, curry powder might be thrown into dishes.
If you add star anise and garlic to British food it magically transforms into French food
Now i want to try the legendary Chicago Deep Fried Pizza.
That’s not a thing. Chicago is known for deep dish pizza, which is so thick it’s basically a pie.
That said, deep-fried pizza DOES exist, and much to my surprise, it was apparently invented in Italy.
i grew up near a place that had something they called a ponza rotta.
it was the pizza equivalent of a chimichanga. it was a deep fried calzone. my high school had a tradition of trying to run a ponza mile instead of a beer mile. last one to puke after eating a whole ponza and running a mile won. only ever knew one person to actually finish the mile.
Panzarotti?
yeah that’s about it, but they call it as i spelled it, and they were huge.
High school hazing rituals are wild, man.
Sadly you’re part wrong, Chicago Style Pizza is very different from Detroit’s Deep-Dish. Deep-Dish Pizza is born out of motor city cooking za in automotive pans, with a thick crunchy crust, while Chicago Pizza is made by morons who don’t know how to make anything that isn’t oversauced lasagne.
Sorry, but no one thinks of Detroit when they hear deep dish pizza.
That’s untrue, but they are wrong, in both places are known for deep dish pizza.
I wasn’t even familiar with Detroit style pizza, but after looking it up, I think “thick crust” would be a better description.
It does look very tasty though.
Yea it’s my favorite type of pizza
Chicago definitely for a fact is known for “Chicago Deep Dish Pizza”. Its not called “Chicago Pizza” because Chicago has a lot of style pizzas, and another famous style named after it. Chicago thin crust/tavern style.
Scots do it too.
Chicago deep dish pizza is more akin to eating the deep fryer, there is so much oil in it.
You need spices for mince pies and fruitcake. Worcestershire sauce and HP sauce. Cakes and sauces basically.
What do you think tea is made of?
Water, mostly.
Garbage and dirt by the taste if it.
So Americans eat Scottish cuisine sans haggis?
I’ve always joked that you could batter a bunch of cardboard, soak it in buttermilk, cover it in spicy breading, do it again and deep fry it … and you could base an entire restaurant chain around it.
Why? you can deep fry haggis too, my local chippy does that
I believe it’s illegal to serve in the USA because their food standards forbid selling lungs.
And yet they are totally fine to eat American processed foods?
Seems so. It’s pretty nuts… but then again they do lots of crazy things.
Reminder that curry is british.
Cleopatra ate curry. A Scottish chef, of Indian descent, just happened to invent Chicken Tikka Masala in Scotland.
Cleopatra was British.
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