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When you have a goose that produces a reliable daily supply of golden eggs do you:
- keep collecting your daily egg
or - see if giving it a good kick or two gets you more eggs
- keep collecting your daily egg
We’re getting closer to the prophetic 4chan post
As fill-in ads are a vector for computer viruses and other malware I for one will NOT be disabling my ad blocker unless YouTube is willing to provide a lifetime subscription to something like Life Lock and make me whole for anything lost to whatever malware arrives as a part of an ad.
Where else can I watch sci-show, Linus-tech-tips, and all the other channels I subscribe to?
Just use newpipe. It’s youtube without the ads. Doesn’t have casting support, but it allows you to download the videos. You can also listen/download to the audio of videos, without fetching the video.
Newpipe will probably be blocked as well if youtube is doing this. Honestly not sure why youtube hasn’t blocked yt-dlp and others already.
@beatniak @blank_sl8 recently many yt-dlp User Interfaces stopped working, I couldn’t download certain videos. So maybe the cat and mouse is about to begin.
this particular cat and mouse has been going on for a long time.
Although I get the impression it’s not particularly aggressive.
There was a while there about a year ago where newpipe seemed to break every week and you had to install the next patch version from github. It’s not like newpipe had to develop some new workaround or something, just changed class names or something.
oh boy, I wish youtube kills itself like reddit is doing right now so decentralized alternatives can become widely adopted
They already get a lot of 💰from ad revenue, charging for a subscription just made that revenue even bigger.
It’s possible they’re losing some coins here and there from the ad revenue that they’ve become so aggressive 😆
They have really gone all out on the whole enshittification process during the past couple of years, haven’t they?
Just wait until they figure out how much more $$$$ they can make by putting all content behind microtransactions:
Imagine a world where, instead of grappling with complex tokens and crypto jargon, you have a digital wallet connected to your Web browser. This wallet would automatically handle microtransactions as you browse and consume content, creating a seamless and simplified experience, reminiscent of exchanging tokens at a funfair or arcade
This transition to the Great Paywall isn’t just about the monetization of content; it’s about balancing the scales and recognizing the value of content creators in the digital ecosystem. In the next chapter of the Web, users aren’t just passive consumers but active participants whose attention carries tangible value.
Let’s not forget that, if we do go down the microtransaction hell of an internet path, we’d be screwing things up big-time for the coming generations…
I’m surprised it took them this long
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Seems like it’s profit squeezin season on every major platform.
Then I’m going to begin not fucking watching YouTube.
lol
There is a federated version of YouTube…
But storing video is a massive challenge, way harder than dealing with a Lemmy or Mastodon instance.
My rational mind realises it’s such an expensive system to run that it’s reasonable for them to charge or show ads. The problem is they’ve been extremely aggressive with ads and pushing subscriptions, to the point where I’m pretty resentful of the idea. Plus they’ve neglected so many things (like allowing aggressive copyright predators and refusing to implement sensible human-based appeals processes) that they really should have dealt with and instead embraced an algorithm that I’m pretty sure is at least partially responsible for the radicalisation of large groups of people.
I… don’t mind paying for shit. I just don’t want to give them money.
Also: wow there’s federated video sharing? Bet that’s not cheap to run.
even google is having difficulty storing video.
When will companies finally understand that some people won‘t watch ads no matter what tricks they employ. I‘d rather watch no video at all than a single ad. If that is their goal, fine.
And the percentage of people using ad blocking has to be crazy low. I’ve never seen another person in public with ad blocking. Every time I happen to see someone watching youtube, there’s ads playing.
It is clear that YT needs income for its infrastructure and showing ads is a valid method, also to offer a premium account. If it were to see a banner on the page or even on the edge or below the video, it would be acceptable, but it is not when they destroy a concert with advertorials in the middle of the video or other too invasive ones that do not allow the video to be seen. With this, the use of an adblocker becomes a legitimate and necessary defense. If they still do not allow it, there is no other option than to use one of these front-ends or desktop-clients that exist, which extract the video without the ads, or go to adblockers at DNS level in the OS. Too bad that YT, regarding content offer, lacks valid competitors and this position can lead to abuse in front of the user.
Too bad that YT, regarding content offer, lacks valid competitors and this position can lead to abuse in front of the user.
It’s the same as any other platform - the network effect. People are more likely to produce content for youtube because thats where the users are.
That said, it’s easier for content creators to support alternatives because unlike social media where everyone is a creator video content producers have a creator > follower relationship, so there’s almost no cost to them to upload the same content on other sites.
I subscribed to nebula a while back. There’s not heaps of content, and all (ok almost all) of it is available for free on youtube. However, I’m happy to pay provided that most of the revenue is going to creators, and I’m happy to support a non-advertising-revenue model.
I feel like extensions are pretty savvy for fixing this. If not, I will waste less time on YouTube. Hell, why not another big site getting over my limit for hoops that are worth jumping through vs value I get.
Yup, a lot of my time got wasted on YouTube… I watched “educational” and “interesting” videos but I have to say that many of the creators got caught into enshittification process too… I would do well with 95% reduction in watch time. However, if they start a real war against adblockers… 100% reduction will it be.
The 10min minimum is why I pretty much stopped posting. If you don’t provide enough viewing time for 2 pre-rolls and one intermission your revenue per 1k views drops off and you don’t get promoted to new viewers.
