There are an infinite variety of flavors of socialism, at some point you gotta learn to find folks you don’t disagree with on anything too important. In my experience anarchists are generally chill.
I don’t know how any of that applies to what I said here.
Edit: I skimmed through the text on the first read because I was sleepy. After reading more carefully I guess you’re agreeing with me somewhat: yes, the necessity for certain types of organization in specific situations is why I dislike anarchism.
I don’t know why a certain ineffective administrative model would have to be coupled with a more equitable economic model. Although I didn’t want to argue that point, rather express a preference.
I fail to see why you would disagree with Lenin, when what he did was put Marxism (according to Marx and Engels) into practice, of course adjusted to fit the conditions of Russia at the time.
Well I would disagree with that assertion. He did a fine work of applying Marxism to the conditions of Russia at the time, although he didn’t live too long so we can’t really conclude where he would have gone with it. Read ‘State and Revolution’ it clearly outlines how Lenin’s ideas and how they fit perfectly within Marxism.
anarchism acknowledges Marxist theory, but rejects the need for a state/beaurocratic apparatus, as it is considered to be fundamentally oppressive.
the state is an abstraction of capital, and cannot liberate the working class, as it exists to perpetuate its own hegemonic existence, our subjugation.
governance need not be heirarchichal; I promote collective mutual determination as an egalitarian system by which society can organize.
can’t dismantle the master’s house with the master’s tools
But what if I’m not an anarchist? I like Marx but not Lenin, so I can’t be an ML either.
There are an infinite variety of flavors of socialism, at some point you gotta learn to find folks you don’t disagree with on anything too important. In my experience anarchists are generally chill.
Read ‘On Authority’ by Engels. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
I don’t know how any of that applies to what I said here.
Edit: I skimmed through the text on the first read because I was sleepy. After reading more carefully I guess you’re agreeing with me somewhat: yes, the necessity for certain types of organization in specific situations is why I dislike anarchism.
I don’t know why a certain ineffective administrative model would have to be coupled with a more equitable economic model. Although I didn’t want to argue that point, rather express a preference.
I fail to see why you would disagree with Lenin, when what he did was put Marxism (according to Marx and Engels) into practice, of course adjusted to fit the conditions of Russia at the time.
I disagree that he ever did anything approaching Marxism. His writings and his actions are pretty distant from one another.
Well I would disagree with that assertion. He did a fine work of applying Marxism to the conditions of Russia at the time, although he didn’t live too long so we can’t really conclude where he would have gone with it. Read ‘State and Revolution’ it clearly outlines how Lenin’s ideas and how they fit perfectly within Marxism.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-are-you-an-anarchist-the-answer-may-surprise-you
anarchism acknowledges Marxist theory, but rejects the need for a state/beaurocratic apparatus, as it is considered to be fundamentally oppressive.
the state is an abstraction of capital, and cannot liberate the working class, as it exists to perpetuate its own hegemonic existence, our subjugation.
governance need not be heirarchichal; I promote collective mutual determination as an egalitarian system by which society can organize.
can’t dismantle the master’s house with the master’s tools