Firefox users are reporting an ‘artificial’ load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it’s part of a plan to make people who use adblockers “experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using.”

  • @[email protected]
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    651 year ago

    Wouldn’t it be neat if YouTube had reasonable competition? You know, so when YouTube adds a five-second delay as a strange style of punishment, a different platform would look more attractive?

    • Chozo
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      511 year ago

      There will never be a real competitor to YouTube, because nobody else is willing to run at a net loss for a decade before seeing their first profitable quarter, like Google did with YouTube.

      Turns out, free video hosting is expensive as fuck.

      • @[email protected]
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        101 year ago

        Im surprised Amazon hasn’t stepped into the space to advertise their own products. They already own a huge storage cloud backend.

          • Nix
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            81 year ago

            Its so strange they let their users store 2 hour+ VODS but dont let users upload edited videos? Would make so much sense and even save them storage since user’s would replace VODs with edited videos since no one watches VODs

            • @[email protected]
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              81 year ago

              In the relatively rare cases that I watch stuff on twitch, I usually watch the VODs. Don’t have the time or energy to sit though hours of a stream in one sitting, nor am I usually able to catch one live, nor do I like feeling like I’ll miss something if I have to leave early, so I prefer to just watch the recordings of them at my own pace over multiple sessions.

            • @[email protected]
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              51 year ago

              I often watch vods. My favorite streamer’s time zone and streaming schedule mean that I can only catch a couple of hours of the beginning of their stream before going to bed, and I couldn’t regularly watch 8-10 hours of stream in one go anyway, so I watch the vods of the streams I want to see the rest of.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 year ago

              I’m guessing that it is probably them being comfortable with their niche, and they don’t think they can break into the YouTube model the same way YouTube couldn’t break into the Twitch model with YouTube Gaming (#killedbygoogle)

        • ...m...
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          31 year ago

          …i’m surprised pornhub hasn’t rolled out an all-ages video site…

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          They already make a killing with their cloud with much less business risk in the form of AWS.

      • livus
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        1 year ago

        Maybe. But give decentralised federated hosting a few years. It might never be a rival but it’s possible it will become a viable alternative.

        • Chozo
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          161 year ago

          If PeerTube can fix their major discoverability issues, it can potentially pose a real threat to YouTube. But that’s the biggest thing keeping it back right now, is that it’s impossible to just find anything you want to watch.

          Unless you want to watch hour-long seminars on Linux. In which case, PeerTube’s got you covered.

          • livus
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            101 year ago

            I think discoverability is in its infancy for the fediverse in general.

            But I’m old enough to remember when vast tracts of the internet were hard to find and everyone used directories. When that changed, everyone jumped online.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yet there is a gazillion of porn sites out there. The thing is, once YouTube become shitty enough its users are itching to find an alternative, porn operators like MindGeek might launch a competitor site because they’re already have a scalable video delivery service. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re already working on it.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          It’s not really a technical problem anymore. Which isn’t to say it’s easy to run such a site, but rather to stress that YouTube is like a social media site. The value is in the users (and the content that they create and consume). You could make a perfect YouTube clone, but good luck getting people to use it when their favourite creators don’t. And good luck getting creators to care when the users aren’t there.

          And Lemmy is misleading. Most people don’t use Firefox. Heck, most people don’t seem to even use ad blockers.

    • Blue and Orange
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      111 year ago

      It’s funny too because ads literally are a 5 second delay (at least) that you get when you dont use an adblocker!

        • stopthatgirl7OP
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          171 year ago

          Same. Give me the delay. At least I know that’s only five seconds, as opposed to a ten-second unskippable ad followed by another ad that I can skip after five seconds.

          • @[email protected]
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            61 year ago

            You’re absolutely right, but we haven’t even touched on the worst part of ads, which is how they utterly poison your brain with annoying jingles, annoying colors, and stupid catch-phrases, all psychologically engineered to get stuck in your head.

            And let’s not even go into how they prey on your fears and insecurities, or deceive you into thinking you need things that you actually don’t. How they prey on vulnerable children, or the elderly, or brainwash small children into manipulating their parents against their best interests. Or how privacy has been shredded since the advent of behavioral tracking.

            I’m not exaggerating at all when I say that advertising is one of the world’s biggest psychological hazards. I would rather sit in an empty room with no stimulation whatsoever than let that poison into my brain.

          • Rentlar
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            If I see an unskippable ad, I like to play the game “Roll the dice until Youtube gives up”. Hit the refresh key until it gives me the correct video length. Devalues Youtube’s ad product and costs YouTube more.

        • DontMakeMoreBabies
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          41 year ago

          At some point Hulu did that - just like three, thirty-second blocks of silent ‘shame on you for ad blocking!’ I totally preferred that to ads…

          Now I just don’t use Hulu?

    • @[email protected]
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      81 year ago

      I’m still waiting for MindGeek to launch an SFW version of pornhub to compete with YouTube. If YouTube keeps getting shittier, they might eventually do it.

    • metaStatic
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      61 year ago

      Turns out people don’t want to compete with something that runs at a loss. and as soon as someone figures out how Google will just copy them with a massive infrastructure lead.

    • mesa
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      11 year ago

      Peertube is almost there. Just needs a good server really, most of the servers are too small for the market share. Or at least fit the general public, I’m loving it ATM.