The federal government is proposing financial incentives for farmers in lieu of cutting enteric methane emissions that are released in the air when cows burp.

    • @[email protected]
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      1811 months ago

      Firstly, climate change requires multiple solutions, this is just one of many. Secondly, methane is one of the gasses we can make the most change the quickest with. Thirdly, cow burps contain a lot of methane and it’s pretty easy to reduce that with food supplements . It’s actually pretty clever. Not sure why you’re being so dismissive.

      • @[email protected]
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        For some people, it seems that any change that isn’t a 100% solution is wrong.

        We’ve become so extreme in our conversations vs. being moderate to the point that people hate you for finding common ground. They want you to say they’re right and that’s it.

        • @[email protected]
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          211 months ago

          We’ve become so extreme in our conversations vs. being moderate to the point that people hate you for finding common ground. They want you to say they’re right and that’s it.

          if they are even listening to what you say in the first place. you can literally tell them what they’re right about and they demand that you address other aspects of their comments.

        • @[email protected]
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          211 months ago

          It’s like that with everything now, people are becoming silly and can’t see that most problems don’t have a single, perfect solution.

          Like, “seatbelts don’t stop every possible vehicular fatality.” Right, but their pretty good, and they’re part of a suite of safety features that, taken together, make a difference.

    • AlwaysNowNeverNotMe
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      What do we do outlaw beef? Until we can create a true facsimile through plants or lab grown meat it will just be an albatross around our necks in the culture war.

      Cows are the largest source of methane on earth, and if you can add 1% algae to their feed or something to make them produce less we would be stupid to miss it.

      • @[email protected]
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        811 months ago

        By “do better” I think they mean “allow me to continue living exactly as I have been with no noticeable changes, hardships or tax increases”

        • @[email protected]
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          Nah, tax the shit out of me. I live in Québec, I can take it. I spent 6 months this year working directly, or indirectly, in response to climate disasters.

          Removing beef would be better than marginal increases in burps.

          Removing cars would be better than burps.

          Removing oil and gas extraction would do better than burps.

          Make hard choices, incremental increases shouldn’t be news.

          NATO is making Canada the home of the headquarters for fighting climate change, think they’re doing that because we’re good at it?

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            These seem odd for some reason. like India with no goods carbon seems wrong? Canadian transport I expect as high due to the expanse of the country.

            • @[email protected]
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              It’s per capita, so India’s consumer spending of $2T (Macrotrends) is split by 1.42B pop, so $1,282 per capita.

              Canada is $1.2T for 33M pop. $26,333 per capita, or 20 times greater than India.

              I am not surprised at all that India’s goods consumption per capita is a rounding error.

              • @[email protected]
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                I didn’t think this was spending, I thought this was carbon production per category, and india produces a lot

                • @[email protected]
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                  I assumed it was consumption, and used spending as a facsimile for it.

                  Why should SE Asia pay the carbon bill for the West’s consumption?

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        We could tax greenhouse gas emissions to internalize the environmental cost.

        If the beef burger would cost 2x more than the plant-based burger (which basically tastes the same but has 90% fewer emissions), most people would choose the plant-based one. That would massively reduce food related ghg emissions, and also create a huge incentive to develop better alternatives/lab meat.

        • Daniel Quinn
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          711 months ago

          This. The simplest path toward a sustainable economy is doing away with the externalisation of costs on products that’re killing us.

          I can’t agree with you on those plant-based burgers though. In no way do they taste the same. If you tax the shit out of cow meat though, it’s likely that someone will be able to develop a better alternative.

          • @jcgA
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            Not American but doesn’t the US government subsidize the meat and dairy industries? Could definitely start with lessening or doing away with that.

            • Daniel Quinn
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              111 months ago

              It’s not just the US. Canada does it too, and i expect many other countries do as well. But yes, this is a great place to start, along with rolling back the trillions of dollars in fossil fuel subsidies.

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            Have you tried the Beyond burgers, granted I haven’t eaten meat in 30 years, but to me they are so meat like that it makes me gag

            • Daniel Quinn
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              111 months ago

              Yup. I’ve had a few versions of both Beyond Meat and Impossible burgers. They’re both better than what came before, but critically, I didn’t like them. They certainly weren’t comparable to actual cow.

              …and I’m cool with that. Mass farming cows is killing us, so we need to drastically reduce that industry down to boutique level so that a “real” burger costs 5-10× what it does now. I just hope that we can do better than the current candidates. My personal hope is that the lab grown meat will be a fitting replacement.

              • @[email protected]
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                211 months ago

                Lab Grown meat makes sense to me. find the tastiest cell lines and replicate. So much waste in cattle farming, and nasty shit going into the cows to keep them viable.

    • flipht
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      311 months ago

      It’s not the best, nor is it the only. It’s one aspect across the entirety of human enterprise, and unlike an individual person, countries and societies are able to implement multiple initiatives at once.

    • Cyborganism
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      111 months ago

      There are more humans in earth than cows. We should find a way to make humans burp less.

      /s