All mobile devices must have USB PD support; new labels are also incoming. The USB-C directive, which requires mobile devices to have a universal charging...
Good news. Can’t wait to get rid of all the archaic cables and adapters I still have left from the bad old days. Really looking forward to using my existing C cables for a very long time.
Yes, but which USB standards are supported by your USB-C cables? I’ve had fun troubleshooting unmarked cables that looked like any other Type-C cable, but only support USB 2.0 data rates or even only charging.
This is basically a botspam talking point.
It doesn’t matter.
If you’ve got bad cables, you should do the same thing you would do with a bad iPhone cable or any other cable that no longer serves its purpose - recycle it.
Now buy another cable that’s actually good, if you don’t know which one that should be, maybe find out which ones your phone provider sells.
This is a self correcting issue over time.
I was troubleshooting someone else’s cable - in this case the USB cable that came with their rather expensive Sony smartphone.
Also, it’s not self-correcting, because online stores are flooded with subpar cables, adapters and hubs that don’t even adhere to the most basic standards.
How on Earth is this very real issue a “botspam talking point”? The USB standard is a mess.
stores are flooded with subpar cables, adapters and hubs that don’t even adhere to the most basic standards.
This has been the truth before USB-C and applies to all categories (HDMI is one of the most outrageous).
I’m not even sure what the solution is. Million connectors, one for each feature set? Even then you will find 240W rated cables on Amazon that melt with 100W.
There’s no original legislation, there’s a specification. And the specification does have “quality” requirements. That some brands do not follow them while announcing them is illegal (to say the least, they are using the branding without permission).
The problem is that there is no certification of new good cables.
There is no guarantee that the replacement cable may be just as defective as the one you are recycling.
One good thing about the MFA program was the proprietary chip guaranteed a minimum standard of quality. Unfortunately it also resulted in a minimum cost.
Yeah, USB-C standard can get complicated, and in demanding cases it causes problems (especially C-C video cables). I advise solving those issues by labeling your special cables clearly and keeping them separated from all the other random cables you use for charging purposes.
Most people don’t face these issues very often because they don’t use cables for transferring data between a phone and a computer. If you really need to transfer video files from your phone all the time, it’s a clear sign you should have bought a proper camera - probably a microphone and lights too.
Well, maybe mark bad cables or use them for charging only? Type-c is not a data transfer standard, so usb 2.0 rates aren’t something to complain about. Certified cables do have clear markings on them.
Would love to see better standards around wattage and throughput, but my understanding is they are trying to work towards that already! Unfortunately that’s a problem for all USB cables and has been a problem since they started adding additional specs besides 5v/1.5a so it can be the next problem they tackle now that they’ve standardized an interface 😄
Good news. Can’t wait to get rid of all the archaic cables and adapters I still have left from the bad old days. Really looking forward to using my existing C cables for a very long time.
Yes, but which USB standards are supported by your USB-C cables? I’ve had fun troubleshooting unmarked cables that looked like any other Type-C cable, but only support USB 2.0 data rates or even only charging.
This is basically a botspam talking point.
It doesn’t matter.
If you’ve got bad cables, you should do the same thing you would do with a bad iPhone cable or any other cable that no longer serves its purpose - recycle it.
Now buy another cable that’s actually good, if you don’t know which one that should be, maybe find out which ones your phone provider sells.
This is a self correcting issue over time.
I was troubleshooting someone else’s cable - in this case the USB cable that came with their rather expensive Sony smartphone.
Also, it’s not self-correcting, because online stores are flooded with subpar cables, adapters and hubs that don’t even adhere to the most basic standards.
How on Earth is this very real issue a “botspam talking point”? The USB standard is a mess.
This has been the truth before USB-C and applies to all categories (HDMI is one of the most outrageous).
I’m not even sure what the solution is. Million connectors, one for each feature set? Even then you will find 240W rated cables on Amazon that melt with 100W.
The solution is a legislated minimum standard or quality.
I’m surprised that the original legislation did not provide this guarantee.
There’s no original legislation, there’s a specification. And the specification does have “quality” requirements. That some brands do not follow them while announcing them is illegal (to say the least, they are using the branding without permission).
Cheap knockoff usually don’t follow the law…
I was referring to the EU laws that are making USB-C charging mandatory.
It does… We have had laws regarding safety in chargers and cables waaaaaaay before USB c existed.
That doesn’t prevent Amazon from selling shit because Amazon doesn’t care. And they were selling shit hdmi, shit rj45 and shit lightning for years.
The problem is that there is no certification of new good cables. There is no guarantee that the replacement cable may be just as defective as the one you are recycling.
One good thing about the MFA program was the proprietary chip guaranteed a minimum standard of quality. Unfortunately it also resulted in a minimum cost.
Yeah, USB-C standard can get complicated, and in demanding cases it causes problems (especially C-C video cables). I advise solving those issues by labeling your special cables clearly and keeping them separated from all the other random cables you use for charging purposes.
Most people don’t face these issues very often because they don’t use cables for transferring data between a phone and a computer. If you really need to transfer video files from your phone all the time, it’s a clear sign you should have bought a proper camera - probably a microphone and lights too.
Well, maybe mark bad cables or use them for charging only? Type-c is not a data transfer standard, so usb 2.0 rates aren’t something to complain about. Certified cables do have clear markings on them.
Would love to see better standards around wattage and throughput, but my understanding is they are trying to work towards that already! Unfortunately that’s a problem for all USB cables and has been a problem since they started adding additional specs besides 5v/1.5a so it can be the next problem they tackle now that they’ve standardized an interface 😄
They should have mandated markings on the plugs that indicate what the cable supports.