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    The Framework Desktop is powered by an AMD Ryzen AI Max processor, a Radeon 8060S integrated GPU, and between 32GB and 128GB of soldered-in RAM.

    The CPU and GPU are one piece of silicon, and they’re soldered to the motherboard. The RAM is also soldered down and not upgradeable once you’ve bought it, setting it apart from nearly every other board Framework sells.

    It’d raise an eyebrow if it was a laptop but it’s a freakin’ desktop. Fuck you framework.

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      insanely hostile response to something like this. they attempted to have these parts replaceable, AMD physically couldn’t do it. they’ve still made it as repairable as possible, and will without a doubt be more repairable than similar devices using this chipset. fucking relax, being reactionary without being informed is dumb.

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        119 days ago

        will without a doubt be more repairable than similar devices

        It’s a desktop, they’re repairable unless you solder something in.

        using this chipset

        They could’ve gone with any other chipset, making the whole thing irrelevant to begin with, but they couldn’t please the AI crowd that way.

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          By similar devices I obviously mean ITX PCs with similar chipsets. The average PC isn’t giving you 128GB of VRAM for $2k.

          Local AI is a difficult thing to do right now, making a product to allow people to use AI without giving up their privacy is great.

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        We need to stop bending over backwards to lower our standards for the people making money off of us.

        Have higher standards.

        Don’t be a useful idiot.

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          118 days ago

          You need to get a grip. Framework is a private company that has done very well by its customers and supporters so far. Stop being so fucking negative.

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            Oof, found the proud consumer.

            They always get upset when you point out how they’re being taken advantage of.

            They can never willingly take a bad deal, right? 😉

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              you seriously have issues. and you’re a dick on top of that.

              you’re either a troll or just a shitty person.

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                018 days ago

                Wow, calm down.

                This is how you react when people say we should have higher standards? I guess you really are insecure about your purchasing habits.

                The consumerism runs deep with you. Now you’re going to throw a tantrum trying to find ways to defend being taken for a ride 😎

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      1219 days ago

      I get the frustration with a system being so locked down, but if 32gb is the minimum I don’t really see the problem. This pc will be outdated before you really need to upgrade the ram to play new games.

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      120 days ago

      Seriously that’s really disappointing. It really seems like investors decides that they needed to “diversify” their offering and they need something with AI now … Framework was on a good path imo but of course a repairable laptop only goes so far since people can repair it and don’t need to replace it every 2 years (or maybe just replace the motherboard) so if you want to grow you need to make more products …

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        Honestly this is exactly the product I was waiting for minisforum to make. I think this is actually a pretty solid move.

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          118 days ago

          Same, I was ready to just buy the first chinese mini pc that had the 128G strix halo processor. This is way better as it will have actual support and likely be better made.

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        219 days ago

        Well tbh they still do have repairable laptops, even new ones and all that, and the “excuse” is that the only way to properly use that specific AMD CPU is with that specific RAM and the non.soldered bus wasn’t enough, but still… i’ll stick to old #ThinkPads, thank you.

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        219 days ago

        I agree. We need less soldered RAM designs. I thought repairability was something they appreciated.