• @[email protected]
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      1919 days ago

      Signal integrity is a real issue with dimm modules. It’s the same reason you don’t see modular VRAM on GPUs. If the ram needs to behave like VRAM, it needs to run at VRAM speeds.

      • Natanox
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        -219 days ago

        Then don’t make it work like that. Desktop PCs are modular and Framework made a worse product in terms of modularity and repairability, the main sales of Framework. Just, like… wtf. This Framework product is cursed and shouldn’t exist.

        • @[email protected]
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          519 days ago

          There’s little point in framework selling a conventional desktop.

          I guess they could have made another laptop size with the the dev time, but… I dunno, this seems like a niche that needs to be filled.

          • @[email protected]
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            419 days ago

            This is where I’m at. The Framework guy was talking about how very few companies are using this AMD deal because the R&D to add it to existing models wasn’t very viable, you really only have the Asus Z13 so I feel like being ahead of the game there will be a benefit in the long run as far as their relationship with AMD. Plus they’re also doing a 12-in laptop now as well, so it’s not like they committed all their resources to this.

    • @[email protected]
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      919 days ago

      Apparently AMD wasn’t able to make socketed RAM work, timings aren’t viable. So Framework has the choice of doing it this way or not doing it at all.

      • @[email protected]
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        -1119 days ago

        In that case, not at all is the right choice until AMD can figure out that frankly brain dead easy thing.

        • @[email protected]
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          1119 days ago

          “brain dead easy thing”… All you need is to just manage signal integrity of super fast speed ram to a super hungry state of the art soc that benefits from as fast of memory as it can get. Sounds easy af. /s

          They said that it was possible, but they lost over half of the speed doing it, so it was not worth it. It would severely cripple performance of the SOC.

          The only real complaint here is calling this a desktop, it’s somewhere in between a NUC and a real desktop. But I guess it technically sits on a desk top, while also being an itx motherboard.