• Finger [he/him]
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    52 years ago

    Well, A massive, purposeful, misinformation campaign by the western governments and news sites that had claimed that there were no deaths in the square in the past and then changed their narrative all of a sudden, would, to me, suggest that these entities might also be misreprenting or lying about the other events. The story obviously does not end there.

    • @[email protected]
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      02 years ago

      Yes, Western media can definitely not be trusted. Better to get the real story from the secretive, authoritarian government that heavily suppresses speech and directly controls its major media outlets.

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Dang I hate secretive governments, can you direct me to a western government that exposes all of its internal communications and doesn’t have a huge amount of “former” state agents in major media publications?

        edit: folks, I have had my weekend water on a Monday

        • @[email protected]
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          -12 years ago

          You’re right, there isn’t a single Western country that has a freer press than China. In fact, China may be the world’s last bastion of open information and free speech.

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            42 years ago

            Except China doesn’t squeal about how free their press is all the time- that’s America and the west at large, all of whose media is owned by wealthy people. thinking-about-it

            • @[email protected]
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              02 years ago

              There were some Western news outlets that lied about the events and propagated false information, and there were some that that did not.

              The fact that Western media outlets cannot be blindly trusted does not mean that the Chinese state controlled media can. The Chinese state has a lot more incentive to lie about the events than independent news orgs do.

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                  -12 years ago

                  I have and I think that there is validity to the propoganda model.

                  But the propoganda model does not say that all reporting by Western media is false, only that Western media has a hidden bias. But while Western media has an underlying bias to shape a narrative that fits the interests of the wealthy, Chinese state media has an overt and explicit bias to push the narrative in a direction that fits the interests of the state.

                  So why would I be more skeptical of western reporting on the incident?

                  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                    22 years ago

                    But while Western media has an underlying bias to shape a narrative that fits the interests of the wealthy, Chinese state media has an overt and explicit bias to push the narrative in a direction that fits the interests of the state.

                    Wild, when I read or watch literally any popular western media I find the bias overwhelmingly explicit and overt. It’s almost like you’re too deep in the propaganda to claim any perspective outside of it. thonk

          • Egon [they/them]
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            Well if western media were trustworthy it would probably be very easy for you to back up your claims with actual sources that haven’t been debunked.

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              -12 years ago

              Sources from around the world say China behaved badly; Chinese state media says China did not behave badly. Sources debunked!

              • Egon [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Post the non-debunked sources then, it shouldn’t be difficult.
                Edit: Yet again I ask a lib for sources and they disappear. It’s incredible. I responded within a minute, and they have nothing lmao. It’s always like this