That’s because non-extremists usually aren’t particularly anti-communist. And why would they be? On paper, communism is a splendid idea. Doesn’t seem to work very well in practice, but that doesn’t make the idea bad…unlike fascism, which is bad even on paper.
Rejection of so-called extremism is such an enlightened centrist take, people are suffering due to the West and you would rather do nothing? Centrists are very quick to paint anything that threatens the current order as extremist, they simply do nothing productive, but toe the US state department line.
Communism worked great in practice, just look at places like Burkina Faso under Sankara, Cuba flourished when the colonizers got kicked out, USSR and China went from semi-feudal societies to world powers in a couple of decades, etc.
On the other hand, do you believe capitalism works well in practice? A majority of the countries of the world are capitalist and yet it only seems to function (hardly) in the global north which relies on imperialism.
Communism worked great in practice, just look at places like Burkina Faso under Sankara, Cuba flourished when the colonizers got kicked out, USSR and China went from semi-feudal societies to world powers in a couple of decades, etc.
Just like a western imperialist, you point at how powerful and wealthy the ruling elites of your favorite regime are and completely gloss over the suffering they cause their people.
China is a nation of slaves, locked into factories fitted with suicide nets as though they were criminals. Russia’s populace is being fed to a meat grinder solely because their president craves power and conquest. And that’s the example you’d have the rest of humanity emulate? Here in America, even our homeless live in better conditions than that!
You’re no better than those you hate—you’re hardly even different from them, let alone better—and that is why no one wants to join you in the revolution you desire.
On the other hand, do you believe capitalism works well in practice?
Of course not. But you certainly aren’t offering a better alternative. I might be down for an honest communism-ish economy—mandatory employee ownership of businesses, redistribution of wealth via wealth tax, that sort of thing—but I’m sure not buying what you’re selling.
Russia’s populace is being fed to a meat grinder solely because their president craves power and conquest
that’s not any kind of own. Russia is a capitalist country, you’re literally arguing against capitalism and then claiming that you’ve proved that capitalism is better than communism despite acknowledging that a capitalist country is feeding its populace into a meat grinder
I am not sure how I point at how powerful and wealthy the so-called ‘elites’ you mention are. I never mentioned anything about the ruling vanguard parties. I merely pointed out the massive improvements in material conditions brought about by the revolutions and vanguard parties, and I fail to see how improvements of material conditions equates to suffering…
You view of China seems very painted by your Western chauvinism, I’m willing to bet you’ve never stepped foot in China.
Russia is not currently a communist country nor is it lead by communists currently so I am not sure what your point is???
Communism is the alternative, as Rosa Luxemburg said: “Socialism or barbarism”.
Why is a communist society not achievable currently? We produce more than enough food to feed everyone and we could do it much more efficiently if we stopped exploiting animals for food too, but it all gets screwed up by imperialism and greed by the global north.
I am not sure what your point is. I have no problems with anarchists and I am inclined to agree with you. Sadly, the capitalist countries of Europe were not interested in fighting against fascism.
non-extremists usually aren’t particularly anti-communist
just be open about it and say you want more anti-communist fascists if you’re going to go about defending how riddled with fascism these anti-communist spaces are
“Extremism” is a term that relieves its user of making any value judgments on the political questions at hand. A thought-terminating cliché that shovels unearned acceptance on the status quo and an unearned rejection of everything else.
A particularly funny part of it is that the early architects of thst status quo would hsve counted as extremists.
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No. Rejection of extremism does not imply acceptance of some other form of extremism.
Well then it is funny how all anti-communist spaces always end up riddled with fascists🤔
That’s because non-extremists usually aren’t particularly anti-communist. And why would they be? On paper, communism is a splendid idea. Doesn’t seem to work very well in practice, but that doesn’t make the idea bad…unlike fascism, which is bad even on paper.
On what paper? What communist books have you read?
Rejection of so-called extremism is such an enlightened centrist take, people are suffering due to the West and you would rather do nothing? Centrists are very quick to paint anything that threatens the current order as extremist, they simply do nothing productive, but toe the US state department line.
Communism worked great in practice, just look at places like Burkina Faso under Sankara, Cuba flourished when the colonizers got kicked out, USSR and China went from semi-feudal societies to world powers in a couple of decades, etc.
On the other hand, do you believe capitalism works well in practice? A majority of the countries of the world are capitalist and yet it only seems to function (hardly) in the global north which relies on imperialism.
Just like a western imperialist, you point at how powerful and wealthy the ruling elites of your favorite regime are and completely gloss over the suffering they cause their people.
China is a nation of slaves, locked into factories fitted with suicide nets as though they were criminals. Russia’s populace is being fed to a meat grinder solely because their president craves power and conquest. And that’s the example you’d have the rest of humanity emulate? Here in America, even our homeless live in better conditions than that!
You’re no better than those you hate—you’re hardly even different from them, let alone better—and that is why no one wants to join you in the revolution you desire.
Of course not. But you certainly aren’t offering a better alternative. I might be down for an honest communism-ish economy—mandatory employee ownership of businesses, redistribution of wealth via wealth tax, that sort of thing—but I’m sure not buying what you’re selling.
that’s not any kind of own. Russia is a capitalist country, you’re literally arguing against capitalism and then claiming that you’ve proved that capitalism is better than communism despite acknowledging that a capitalist country is feeding its populace into a meat grinder
I am not sure how I point at how powerful and wealthy the so-called ‘elites’ you mention are. I never mentioned anything about the ruling vanguard parties. I merely pointed out the massive improvements in material conditions brought about by the revolutions and vanguard parties, and I fail to see how improvements of material conditions equates to suffering…
You view of China seems very painted by your Western chauvinism, I’m willing to bet you’ve never stepped foot in China. Russia is not currently a communist country nor is it lead by communists currently so I am not sure what your point is???
Communism is the alternative, as Rosa Luxemburg said: “Socialism or barbarism”.
Why is a communist society not achievable currently? We produce more than enough food to feed everyone and we could do it much more efficiently if we stopped exploiting animals for food too, but it all gets screwed up by imperialism and greed by the global north.
Anarchy worked great in practice, until Franco killed it.
I am not sure what your point is. I have no problems with anarchists and I am inclined to agree with you. Sadly, the capitalist countries of Europe were not interested in fighting against fascism.
Stalin did
Again, what is your point? Did you expect Stalin to support anarchists? I am really not sure what you are getting at here.
just be open about it and say you want more anti-communist fascists if you’re going to go about defending how riddled with fascism these anti-communist spaces are
You really do think, that anyone who does not like communism is a fascist, huh?
Centrism in practice
“Extremism” is a term that relieves its user of making any value judgments on the political questions at hand. A thought-terminating cliché that shovels unearned acceptance on the status quo and an unearned rejection of everything else.
A particularly funny part of it is that the early architects of thst status quo would hsve counted as extremists.
real both sides has never been tried ;)
“I don’t think ethnic purges are justified under any circumstance”
“YOU ARE JUST LIKE THE NAZIS”
Maybe turn off the Fox News sweetie😘