• @[email protected]
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    Okay so just to be clear.

    You are in an extreme heat wave. There is no power. You see your neighbors struggling due to the heat. You have the ability to invite them over cool down. Doing so would cost virtually $0.

    You instead post a meme on lemmy making fun of them.

    Even if you don’t get along with them, doing something like this would be a huge way to mend fences.

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      While the Texas grid does have issues related heat waves, it’s not alone in that regard. Basically every southwestern state does, including California.

      There are stark differences between 49 other states and Texas.

      • Texas power grid has been systematically gutted
      • regulation and inspections are defunded, as Texas refuses the inspections required to join the nations power exchange as a peer.

      And the big one

      • now they’re not exchanging power, they have to buy from their rich constituents, at a premium, and they gut the bank accounts of your tax money

      They’re set up for failure and occasionally they succeed.

      • @[email protected]
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        “Hey neighbor. I’ll totally help you out during this heat wave, but only if you have the same political opinions as me. You’d better make that apparent quick, because your gas tank will only last for so long”.

        On some level you have to realize that’s a toxic attitude, right?

          • @[email protected]
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            So what you’re saying is that it’s okay to let your neighbors struggle during a heatwave if they aren’t well educated?

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          Well at some point we need to stop letting people believe that climate change denial is a reasonable stance to have. Letting folks stew in the consequences of their choices is effective.

          • @[email protected]
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            121 year ago

            Being friendly is far more effective than trying to punish people to make them agree with you. Especially when there’s no immediate and obvious consequence of their individual actions.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              Of course you’re right. It’s best to continue being friendly until they’d literally die outside and wouldn’t need persuading.

    • @[email protected]
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      111 year ago

      So I this entire thing, like everything these days, is made up to push a narrative.

      But you’re the one who brought up Texas and laid out the narrative that their isolated grid doesn’t have any issues that the rest of the country doesn’t have as well. Who’s pushing the narrative here?

      • Doug [he/him]
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        I assumed it’s the one who used the phrase “these days” regarding a social issue like it’s unique to now.

    • @[email protected]
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      81 year ago

      LMAO alright Texas, we all believe you. We’ll send you federal aid next time your shitty power grid goes out and people start freezing to death in their homes.

    • DandroidOP
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      So you know the state of the power of my house better than me? Want me to send the logs of my solar app that keeps track of my outages?

      My power was out yesterday while it was 103°F. I’m sorry it wasn’t published on the internet.

      • @[email protected]
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        81 year ago

        Okay so your either lying or you laughed as your neighbors desperately attempted to escape dangerous temperatures.

        Neither of those possibilities made you look good.

        • DandroidOP
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          Oh no! People on the internet don’t think I look good! How will I ever recover!?

          Not lying about the power outage. It wasn’t out long enough for anyone to actually be in danger, just slightly uncomfortable. No one was desperate, just wanted to be a little more comfortable in their cars.

          You’re just being a toxic asshole that wants to find something wrong with everything, so you are making assumptions about a situation you don’t fully understand and jumping to conclusions like it’s some sort of Olympic sport.

          • @[email protected]
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            Okay so you watched your neighbors struggle in the heat and thought it was funny.

            You are a toxic asshole to people in real life.

            • DandroidOP
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              Lmao, for a couple of minutes. They were fine. I promise. No one was dying in the streets or anything.

              You are a toxic asshole to people in real life.

              The irony is delicious.

              • @[email protected]
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                Not really. This is the Internet. You’re a dick to your actual neighbors. Who you live next to. You you saw in person and laughed about their misfortune. In real life.

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    You might try to not be an asshole to them and invite them in. You’d probably be able to get them more on biased with solar. But then you’d have to give up the opportunity to be a snarky troll.

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      It’s also nice to be on good terms with your neighbors, you never know when you could use their help or what they might offer you I’m the future. My neighbors wife asked for a cup of flour and we gave her an extra bag. Next day my wife is outside and they hand her an ounce of weed… what a trade

      • @[email protected]
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        I had to stop smoking weed for medical brain damage reasons, and ended up gifting 4 grams of concentrate and all my glassware to a cool neighbor.

        Multiple hundred dollar bongs and a $300 Opal set in a dab rig.

        Back on opiates for pain, but he was a cool kilt wearing bastard.

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    Goddamn libs with their goddamn sun power

    where’s the diesel generators?? Fucking commies haven’t figured out that something has to explode first to get anywhere!!!

    /s

  • @[email protected]
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    do NOT let them sleep in their car, there’s a real risk they could die if from asphyxiation. Here in Mexico there were blackouts from the record heat and there was a family who slept in their car for the ac. They unfortunately all died

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      Assuming they’re sleeping in the car with the AC running, my car never seems to let me keep it on recirculation for more than like 10 minutes. I noticed this while I was driving through a bunch of forest fire smoke I was trying to keep out, and I had to keep turning it back on.

      Maybe that’s just a safety feature my car has, but not all cars? Or am I misunderstanding and it’s an issue with exhaust fumes? That would definitely be an issue in a garage.

      • Freeman
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        For my car I have to pump the air all the way down to cold for recirculation to stay on.

    • DandroidOP
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      That’s really sad to hear. Luckily the power wasn’t out for too long here.

  • @[email protected]
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    151 year ago

    This is one of the huge overlooked advantages of electric cars, provided that the manufacturer added the feature (it’s insane that some don’t) you can straight up power your house for DAYS on the car battery.

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      121 year ago

      I don’t think you can power a home air conditioner for days on a teslas battery bank. It’s the most energy draining system by far.

      • @[email protected]
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        if we assume the lowest capacity tesla model S and a beefy AC that consumes 5 kWh/h, that’s still 15 hours of non-stop balls to the wall AC usage.

        Also, provided that you live close enough to a charger that is functonal, you have the ability to drive there, charge your car, and use the energy at home. That’s probably less efficient and definitely more of a hassle than just having a backup generator and some dunks of fuel, but hey it’s nice to have extra options.

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      Yea I think that’s just the Lightning. Cool idea but I don’t see all the F150 owners switching to electric until they’re forced to, at least here in the US.

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      Which manufacturers do add this feature?

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    I freaking live in the desert so i know I’d have solar 16h a day for like 9 months but i also know that solar panels optimal temp is 25°. In here, it’s a least 35, almost always above 40, often 45++ in the summer. Heck, there’s days and days of consecutive 49° and somehow never reach 50° making me believe that if it reach 50° the government is required by international laws to not allow citizens out or something.

    • @[email protected]
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      That temp doesn’t keep them from working though, they will still produce a lot of power in that much sun. It’s entirely worth it to have them if you can afford to.

      • Diabolo96
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        doesn’t it degrade their capacity too much ? I thought at such temps they be like -80% capacity or something. 25m² at 400w would shrink my electric bill by a lot.

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      Wow that’s a lot colder than i expected, i always thought solar panels worked best around 70° or so

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          Why though? Americans rarely do the opposite, and it was kinda obvious because if the optimal temp of solar panels were 25F, that translates to - 3.5°C, and that’s obviously wrong.

          With the solar panel context, it’s obvious that we are talking in Celsius.

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            I get where you’re coming from with the assumptions you made. It’s obvious to you, but it might not be to everyone. As they say in programming, “explicit is always better than implicit”. Relying on the reader to infer what you mean instead of just telling them explicitly will always risk misinterpretation.

            And laughing at people because they don’t understand things is the fastest way for this to become like Reddit, which I really hope doesn’t happen.

            • Diabolo96
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              I already knew this but thanks anyway. Yet, let us not play around with semantics . A desert usually refers to a hot place with a lot of sand.

              • Freeman
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                A desert refers to climate. And the amount of rain it gets. It’s not semantics.

                Even host deserts will freeze you out at night. It’s very common to go from 100 F to snowfall overnight in places like Reno Nevada.

                Tl:dr - I’m not sure I believe you.

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                  I’m not sure I believe you.

                  It doesn’t matter.

                  What i find more interesting is what is the end goal of this conversation. You and i both know everyone on earth refers to desert as a host place with a lot of sand. Perhaps i am thinking too deep but It’s hard for me to not make a parallel with something that happened locally were during an interview on tv our vice president used the wrong suffix to pluralize the word “poor”. He isn’t know for being a smart guy so it cemented it even further and everyone was making fun of him for this blunder. Later, his wife who is an author wrote an entire page on the newspaper trying to defend him by saying the word he said does exist and refers to a traditional irrigation technique and went on describing it’s historical significance and all that.

                  Am not an psychologist nor an anthropologist but i wonder what does this say about humans and how they interact with other groups ?

    • DandroidOP
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      What do you want to know? Like my experience when shopping for panels? Or my experience having them on the house?

        • DandroidOP
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          I have only had them for a couple of months, so I haven’t got that far yet. From some research I have done, I should hose them off once a year. The installer told me that I could probably just hose them off from the ground level, but I’ll probably hop up on the roof and hose them off. I’ll probably do it next spring for the first time.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’ve had mine for right at a year. Haven’t done anything, I’ll consider cleaning if I see efficiency taper off

        • @[email protected]
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          I’ve had panels for 3 years now. There’s no maintenance needed. Performance is monitored via app and the company that installed them for me will contact me if something is wrong with them for the next 25 years.

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        I want to know if all your neighbors hate you for making fun of them instead of just inviting them inside.

        • DandroidOP
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          Nah, there’s no way they saw me with how bright the sun was. Plus, the nearby neighbors know I have solar panels. They had to sign off on it for the HOA. If they knocked on my door and asked to come in, I would gladly let them in. But I’m not gonna go knocking on everyone’s door in the neighborhood and invite them in. I can’t save everyone.

    • @[email protected]
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      I’ve had solar panels and a battery for almost four years. Other than cleaning the panel surfaces once or twice a year they have been fully maintenance free.

  • @[email protected]
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    “hyah hyah hyah. Molly my dear, come look at the poors with me! What a riot, look at how hot they are!”

    If Gilligan’s island were real, they’d have eaten Thurston Howell first. Just sayin’.

    • PorkRollWobbly
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      Who h is why social programs to aid cover the costs of the installs would be a good thing but given that the state they live in is resorting to rolling blackouts instead of investing in infrastructure, that doesn’t seem like it’ll happen.

    • AphoticDev
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      That’s true, it’s not super cheap to install. But you might be able to get government grants to help with that, depending on where you live.

      • @[email protected]
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        True, but I imagine the grants only cover a portion of it and it’d still end up costing the person(s) at least hundreds of dollars if not thousands.

        Some persons’ budgets are that tight (mine is).

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          Damn if only solar was just hundreds of dollars. I’m pretty sure any sort of proper install with battery backup and automatic switching would easily be $10k+. Maybe prices have come down though.

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            I was speaking out of my ass regarding the price. It was just an example. I have absolutely no idea how much it would, merely that it would be a metric fuckton of money. Lol.

    • DandroidOP
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      Lmao, take a guess. Where is it hot and has a constantly failing power grid? The answer is always Texas.

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        Set up a sign in your yard “These communist solar panels sure are keeping me cool.”

      • @[email protected]
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        Well California has a lot of the same issues when it comes to heat waves. You know it’s Texas because OP mentions owning their home.

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          True, they do have lots of issues. I actually moved from California to Texas because I would never be able to buy a house out there.

          Last time I visited my parents in CA, their power was out for the first 3 days of my trip. They got a hotel.

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    Where I am you can collect a bounty for reporting people who idle cars like this. It’s a massive contributor to smog.

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      181 year ago

      Some one is trying to espacpe the heat and their only option is the ac on their car, and you’re looking to report them?

    • AphoticDev
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      Report them so they can just die from heatstroke instead? Bet you call the cops on single mothers shoplifting food for their kids too, don’t you?

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        In my area there are public cooling stations you can go to instead, but most people prefer the luxury and privacy of their car.

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        Sure I mean I suppose it is possible that op lives in a very mixed income area where you have single family homes with $40k worth of solar infrastructure on their roof, right next to starving single mothers. But let’s be honest here. There’s a pretty high chance that the people in question are exactly the kind of selfish assholes who vote for policies which make sure single mothers have no option but to shoplift food, and are also exactly the kind of people the “no idling vehicles” laws are intended to target.

        But I guess holding a pitchfork in the air is easier than critical thinking.