Back in the day - rooting Android phones and installing custom ROMs were such a big part of Android. I remember so well using titanium backup and Greenify and Cyanogenmod and the list goes on.

Is it still necessary to root in 2023 though?

I have been on vanilla Android without root access for the past couple of years and at this point most root features have made it into the vanilla Android OS. What are your thoughts?

  • @[email protected]
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    92 years ago

    I used to root my phone, run custom ROMs and tweaks, the whole thing. Was basically forced to keep stock when I got a galaxy S8, and now I haven’t rooted even with my past few pixels, it doesn’t feel useful anymore. I might root my pixel 5 in the future as I plan to keep it for a long time, but right now I’m stock

  • ahornsirup
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    82 years ago

    I haven’t felt a need to root a phone in years. These days you will get a usable UI and UX with basically all major brands and adblock can be done without root, so it’s just not worth the hassle trying to hide the fact that you’re rooted from banking apps etc. At least as far as I’m concerned, I’m sure that some people still see a benefit in rooting.

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    I still root my phone for system-wide adblock, call recorder and Xposed modules I have been using since Jelly Bean.

    • Illiterate Domine
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      12 years ago

      Same. I recently got a new phone and considered hopping into the Apple ecosystem, but call recording kept me on Android.

  • Engywook
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    42 years ago

    Necessary for what? If you want to block ads system-wide, you can use the Private DNS feature. But to fiddle with system partition/install Xposed stuff you definitely need root

  • kratoz29
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    32 years ago

    For me yes, I can tweak my system at my liking, root breaking things is not something that has ever happened to me, all my bank app works without issues and I can’t remember the last time they didn’t.

    I run Paranoid Android rooted along with tons of apps that require root acces such as Swift Backup, Adaway, App Manager, BBS, FKM, KonaBess, Pixelifly for Google Photos, Saver Tuner, Revanced, SD Maid, Termux, X-Plore etc.

    And some modules like Zygisk, Detach, Pixel Launcher Extended

    I know some of those apps doesn’t require root specifically (can work with adb) but for me is just easier to just put Magisk and call it a day.

  • ohellidk
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    32 years ago

    I use Lineage faithfully so my phone stays rooted. Also, I live in the US where carriers aggressively lock down their phones so they can upcharge everything. the whole “your hotspot will work at 3g speeds” is one reason to root. Adaway is another reason to root as well. I’m too cheap for home internet so I tether to get online. US carriers (and cable companies) hate that and try to prevent it. root and VPN gets around that. unlimited 5g hotspot.

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    First time I rooted was in 2007 for installing CyanogenMod. After Cyanogen stopped updating I haven’t bothered rooting my phones.

  • @[email protected]
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    2 years ago

    Not at all.

    I used to root all my phones going back to the HTC Incredible. You had to, if you wanted great UI, or locked-out functionally like wifi hotspotting.

    These days my phone does everything I want right out of the box.

    I guess I’d still consider rooting on order to do a debloat, but with onboard storage being what it is, I really don’t care that I’m only disabling and hiding the bloat.

  • jcrabapple
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    12 years ago

    No but I think roms now are at an all time high for quality and stability.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    Rooting is more security compromising than it’s worth. There are a small set of use cases I could see but for the most part do either or below.

    If you have a Pixel you would want to run GrapheneOS for maximum security and privacy.

    All other phones you would ADB remove bloatware, run PrivateDNS with NextDNS or an alternative, and turn off as much analytics/permission/features as possible for a functional phone.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      I used to root every phone I owned cause I could do so much more with it. I haven’t rooted in so long, android does what I need now

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    Necessary is a matter of perspective, and what it is you need your device to do. Mine is that if you don’t have root (or equivalent) on a computer, you don’t really own it. That’s a philosophical point more than a practical one - I’d want root even if I didn’t currently have a use for it.

    Practically, here are some things I use root for in 2023:

    • Advanced charge controller - limit battery charge to extend service life. Some devices have a built-in option now, but it’s usually only a single switch for 85%. I usually set it to 60%.
    • Backup of apps with their data (Neo Backup), to install onto another device or after a factory reset - I don’t think there’s a way to do anything like this without root.
    • Mounting remote devices for access by arbitrary apps using EasySSHFS - I don’t think there’s a good equivalent.
    • Accessing exfat format external drives, like the SD cards in my camera using MiXPlorer’s built-in filesystem drivers. Android is an asshole for not supporting more filesystems. It’s Linux; the support already exists.
    • Hosts file ad blocking - DNS ad blocking is a viable alternative now.

    If something blocks me from using it with root, I’ll give it a 1-star review on Google Play and probably not use it even if I can get around the blocking. If my bank starts using more effective blocking, I will probably change banks.

  • @[email protected]
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    2 years ago

    Essential? no.

    Worth it? maybe.

    Nice to have control of your own device? absolutely.

    I have two devices, primary with root (through Magisk as KernelSU still has some issues for me) and secondary without root. Anytime I have to do something more demanding on the unrooted device I really wish I had root. Local terminal access, ability to disable some annoying “features” (verified app links) and multiple other things I use daily make it worth it for me.

    EDIT: I saw mentions of custom roms in other comments. I have a custom rom installed (AOSP based). If I was on a stock rom (or god forbid something like MIUI) root would be a must for me.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    I’ve been a flashaholic since the CWM days, but I haven’t rooted since probably 2017 or so. Back in the day, rooting was practically necessary for a good UX, but Android’s matured enough now that I haven’t had the need for a few years.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    I been on custom ROMs for years without root. But recently, root has moved from magisk to kernelsu, which is a kernel based root solution. Much better than magisk in terms of avoiding detection and required no extra install if your kernel already supports kernelsu. I’ve started using root features again thanks to kernelsu