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      What I love, is that it was an Ojibwe woman that was illustrated by an Ojibwe. It was done out of honor and respect…

      Then someone decided to get rid of her… Feel free to read into that.

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        This, the woman behind Aunt Jemima has a pretty progressive history as well. This just reaks of the usual problems we get from Liberal Virtue Signalling. Creating something incredibly offensive in a poor attempt to be less offensive.

        Remember when Cartoon Network discontinued Speedy Gonzales because white people called the character racist, only to reinstate him when Latino and Hispanic watchers were like “Where’s the only Looney Tune that represents us in anyway?”

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          Some company decided to change their logo because it looks dated and might give the wrong impression. How is this even a problem?

          As for liberals causing problems, yeah maybe they go a bit too far some times and can be over sensitive. But the other side is literally trying to take us back to theocracy, where women only have the rights their husbands will allow them. They’re not even pretending otherwise any more. I’ll take oversensitive over that any day.

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            I know, I’m not saying I support the Republicans, but the Democrats don’t actively want me dead so I reluctantly support them. However, I do ask people acknowledge the difference between Leftists and Liberals.

            And the issue is that their attempt at being less racist, resulted in the erasure of black people… which is in and of itself more racist than the logo ever was.

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      THAT is absolutely the same “point” I made when I first saw it?!!

      Ok, so, the person was bad to show, I guess, but now it’s an even better analogy to what the settlers did…

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        I honestly don’t know why “it’s bad to show”. Like, if the person on the packet isn’t a white man, it’s bad.

        We had these growing up in Australia…

        Like, that I get now, but it’s worth pointing out no kid in Australia obviously even knew what a “redskin” was. Hell, I thought Comanches and Apaches were snakes because of the Huey Cobra.

        Wait a second… Oh my god, just realised a Blackhawk isn’t named after a hawk, this is also a native American peoples. Like the NHL team, duh. And that’s my wife’s second fav team because she thinks it’s a cool logo and “I’m glad they’re repping the native Americans.”

        See?

        Anyway, I strayed from my point. I really like seeing other cultures on stuff. Seems a shame to remove that stuff, kind of disingenuous or disrespectful. If there’s a dark history, no one’s researching that, they’re more interested in other things like buttering some toast and then deciding to put a documentary about native Americans on because of the cool image.

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            I don’t see how that’s racism. There’s no discrimination of traits, assertion of superiority or inferiority of races, and it’s actually being used to help sell a product and brand identity which requires.positivity.and.attraction from others.

            Culturally inappropriate? Sure, could be. That’s up to that culture to determine and advise though. But we know the artist was also of the same group of indigenlus people.

            The artist responsible for redesigning the Land O’Lakes logo in 1954 and creating the iconic image of the Native American woman was Patrick DesJarlait. DesJarlait was an Ojibwe artist from Red Lake, Minnesota, and his design has become closely associated with the Land O’Lakes brand.

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                What is her back story supposed to be?

                An old motherly Southern Black woman. Reminds me of any number of real life people I’ve known. The whole “depicting Black people is racism” thing was cooked up by and for white people.

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                Unless you’re talking specifically to an anti racist audience, you really gotta explain what revisionist history mammy meant for those who want to whitewash the antebellum south. Even then there will be plenty that are willfully ignorant.

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          Maybe if your only reference to a culture is an insulting one, they’d rather you not have an impression at all. Though I dunno much about Australia. That bunch of bogans seem to like people to think bad about them.

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          This is pretty much how I feel about it. Heck my ancestry is French and I’m still salty as hell over Pepe LePew vanishing from existence.

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          I might be the 10th dentist but I grew up with the fake stuff and enjoy it far more. I didn’t understand why all of the “nice syrups” tasted awful comparatively.

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            On an episode of Kitchen Nightmares, Gordon Ramsay gave this chef two similar dishes, and I believe the chef enjoyed the one that tasted like instant microwave food. So you probably just have shit taste. Fortunately, once Ramsay cooked some good food up for the guy, he shed tears and loved it. There is hope for you yet.

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        Maple is good, but sometimes I want my butter flavored brown goop on my plain egg and bread French toast because that’s one of the two childhood comfort foods I crave to this day

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    Some board room somewhere

    Bossman "Alright team, what should we change to ensure our company is not seen as racist according to white people on twitter?

    Person 1 “Increase represtation of different races and cultures across our brands?” ejector seat activated

    Person 2 “Hire someone qualified to have this conversion?” ejector seat activated

    Person 3 "Get rid of Aunt Jemima so people don’t accosiate our brand with black people anymore?

    Bossman “brilliant! Someone get me a raise for coming up with that.”

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      It’s not about associating the brand with black people. Aunt Jemima was a mammy, straight out of a ministrel show. She was a racist stereotype of the loving and attentive house slave

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        They could have come up with a new character…instead they got rid of it all together. Just say its Jemima’s niece who carries on the recipe.

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        No, she was an accurate depiction of actual Black Southern grandmas, both pre and post slavery. The whole “this represents slavery” thing was bullshit cooked up by white people. My 3rd grade teacher looked EXACTLY like Aunt Jemima and she made some bomb-ass cookies.

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    Was really confused why you would prefer plastic over glass, but then i understood what was meant by “her”.

    • @[email protected]
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      For something slow moving and sticky like fake maple syrup, a plastic bottle will let you squeeze the syrup out instead of waiting for it to slowly drip down to the nozzle.

      • Chris
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        You can warm the bottle to make is more viscous. Old plastic bottles would make me worried about micro plastic, but micro plastic is already in all the cells in my body so I should stop caring

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        The Aunt Jemima brand was changed to Pearl Milling Company due to it being based on a racist charicture. Pearl Milling Company was the name of the company before they created the Aunt Jemima brand, in the late 1800s. Upset by this change, this fellow is pouring syrup into an old Aunt Jemima brand bottle, and implicitly threatening violence against whoever would try to stop him. However, he is using Millville brand, which as far as I can tell is unrelated to the Pearl Milling Company.

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          Millville is an Aldi store brand. The origins of Aldi store brands are kept secret, but there’s a decent chance that it’s made by Pearl Milling

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            With knockoffs, it’s always one of three sources.

            First is just a knock off. It’s a different manufacturer, maybe worse, maybe even better, but it’s an entirely unrelated source.

            Second is factory seconds. Product that doesn’t pass brand QA for one reason or another, so they sell the lesser quality product to off-brand as a similar product.

            Third is factory surplus. The brand only buys some of the product that the factory can make, so the factory keeps making more product and selling it to other brands. This is ideal for the consumer, because it is usually exactly the same product without the brand label.

            You’re always hoping for the third, but usually it’s the first one. The real problem is, you’ll never know until you get the product. Generic brand names don’t have the same concern for brand loyalty, so the source or formula may change more frequently than a brand name product. The Millville syrup this week might be Pearl Milling surplus, or Pearl Milling seconds next weeks, and Parl Mowing sugar water next month.

            Complicating matters is that Pearl Milling may not even own the production, and is probably sourcing their syrup from a conglomeration of farmers, importers, and intermediaries. But it’s still the same dance, just with more moving parts.

            The only value a brand name has is the value the brand has for it’s own name. Once a brand decides to cash in on their name and stops caring about quality, the brand name has no more value.

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            It could be the very same product. It could also be made at the same factory but to aldis specifications.

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        Aunt Jemima as a brand was discontinued as it was based on a racist stereotype. The person in the picture is decanting fake maple syrup into an old Aunt Jemima bottle.

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    That handgun looks like a rare 1911 Commander made by Ruger manufactured in Southport, CT. Those things are not cheap.

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            I’ve fired one.

            It’s not uncomfortable, but in no way would I describe it as “comfortable” for my size hand.

            And if you have texture issues like my wife, the diamond pattern is like coarse sandpaper grating against you.

            I prefer ergonomic grips with properly sized/spaced finger indentation, myself.

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              I have similiar grips on my 1911, aftermarket wood grips from some guy in Czech Republic. They feel better than the stock grips, but yah, not great.

              Now the stock grips on my CZ Shadow… chef’s kiss.

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                The grips on mine are fiberglass reinforced epoxy resin and while I do wish they were a nice ironwood or like mesquite, they’re comfortable. Ebay special.

                I’ve held a few CZ firearms, and they all feel like they were made with ergonomics in mind. The again, they’ve got the price tag to show it…

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      It’s the cheapest sugar option in the us, so it goes in everything that’s not a “premium” brand, and even then it might still have it in there.

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        And products that “remove” it replace it with glucose-fructose, or sometimes even pure fructose, which hilariously shows both that companies don’t give a fuck, AND consumers are really stupid on average.

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      American manufacturers. We’re stuck with what we get and that shit’s in everything.

      Most anyone you’d ask here will tell you they prefer sugar and we’ll take that option whenever it’s available and not stupidly expensive.

  • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin
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    Last time I saw white people get this fanatical over a black woman it was because she was handing them free minivans.

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      The African American Registry of the United States suggests Nancy Green and others who played the caricature of Aunt Jemima should be celebrated despite what has been widely condemned as a stereotypical and racist brand image. The registry wrote, “We celebrate the birth of Nancy Green in 1834. She was a Black storyteller and one of the first Black corporate models in the United States.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aunt_Jemima

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        Her financial freedom and stature as a national spokesperson enabled her to become a leading advocate against poverty and in favor of equal rights for the black population. She used her stature as a spokesperson to advocate against poverty and in favor of equal rights for individuals in Chicago.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Green

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          So instead of celebrating her on the bottle, or doing something to recognize her… They go the other direction and just remove her.

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      I saw news reporting about it at the time, and if I recall correctly her descendants were actually proud of her being the mascot and thought it was cool.

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    I don’t think Mr. Butterworth would appreciate you filling his wife with your syrup.

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    Unironically this, I’m sorry they want to decrease visibility of black people and call that fighting racism?

    We can’t have Aunt Jemima, but Captain Crunch’s cracker ass is still joining us for breakfast?