Many defendants arrived at the hearing with their bags packed ready for prison. One of them was in tears as he hugged his companion before entering the courtroom.
Aww, boo fucking hoo. 🖕🏾
You can bring a bag to prison??
European prisons are different from American ones because they weren’t modeled after slave pens
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Good
Is it good enough?
At 72 it’s probably a life sentence.
Eligible for probation at 13 years and 4 months. I hope he suffers.
They should’ve thrown out the maximum years for a case like this. They should’ve thrown out parole eligibility too.
If you can throw it out for one case you can throw it out for every case.
Unlike the US, most countries in the EU - including France - have a justice system that is not attempting to maximize recidivism, which is why maximum sentences exist for every crime except murder.
Furthermore, at least in Germany the constitutional court ruled that life sentences without the eligibility of parole violate human dignity as such sentences would take away all hope from prisoners which significantly harms them. I wouldn’t be surprised if France had similar rulings.
“Life means life, no exceptions” is against the ECHR, in particular Article 3.
For him? Probably yes. But what about the other 50 assholes?
Y’all ever notice how much male sexuality is performative for the benefit of other men? I’m not saying that they’re gay, they just seem more motivated by peer approval and status than touching a girl.
I recently saw an interview with a stripper who said that the dudes who wanted attention from the girls used $100 bills and were discrete, while the dudes who tossed 100 $1 bills were more interested in the attention of their buddies.
There’s a weird thing with “conquest”, pulling the ladies, and being somewhat deviant that’s tied to manliness and straightness for some reason.
Laughs in lesbian
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I don’t think I said any of that lol
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I mean we are superior for other reasons. But no. The same internalized misogyny still applies. That’s why I wrote laughs in lesbian as if conquest is just a straight man thing.
Your sarcasm about us being the pinnacle of mental health is why you got the downvotes. It’s an allusion to gay = crazy, which ya know, with us being in the DSM until more recently is offensive.
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Extrapolating this incident to male sexuality at large is idiotic.
The guy is right though. Testosterone peaks as a result of social circumstances.
Nothing about testosterone makes you sadistically drug and sexually exploit your wife for decades.
It does decrease sensitivity to consequences and decrease empathy. It also results in dominance seeking behaviour. It’s why what happened to the victim, is done more often by men than women.
Another interesting thing, in that same vein, is asexual or lesbian women that just go along with being in heterosexual relationships with men because it’s ‘normal’ or convenient.
“Hurr durr, everyone I don’t like is a closet homosexual.”
They literally said that they’re not saying they’re gay. It’s the second sentence for fuck sake.
Well, they should stop being republican, then.
“okay but women not wanting to date men is just overreacting” - a sentiment we see even here on fucking Lemmy.
Fifty different men. He also trained these men how to rape their wives.
“okay but women not wanting to date men is just overreacting” - a sentiment we see even here on fucking Lemmy.
We’ve dodged a lot of the usual garbage from Reddit over here, but that one definitely stuck around. The only negative comments I’ve received on any of my lemmy accounts are guys furious when you point out men are more violent partners. Like they just cannot admit that as a society the ‘boys will be boys’ mentality was used to allow a lot of awful behaviours like rape. Hell, Revenge of The Nerds has a rape scene in it and people only recently started to speak out against it.
So, sorry for the downvotes, but at least we all know it’s a bunch of insecure men. Maybe they’ll learn, maybe they won’t, but you have allies here in the mean time.
“okay but women not wanting to date men is just overreacting” - a sentiment we see even here on fucking Lemmy.
I was thinking it really wasn’t that bad on here as you described, but I just read some other comments under this post and I was dead wrong. Disappointing.
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They’re still confused why women chose the bear.
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Misandry is ok but misogyny isn’t?
And ya’ll wonder why people think there’s a double-standard…
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Err… this comment chain was literally started due to misandry.
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Yeah, I’ve heard the same thing about why it’s acceptable to be afraid of certain minorities because they “statistically commit more crimes.”
Neither are excuses for bigotry and prejudice.
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Where’d you learn that word. That’s not in the Bible.
I can’t imagine wanting/needing to rape my wife. There are so many layers to that I don’t even know where to begin wrapping my brain around it.
I dated a woman who badly wanted me to roleplay raping her. I knew I could never get into it, and if that’s what she wants she should be able to have it I guess, so I broke up with her instead.
I dated one of those long-distance once and it was really fucking weird. We would have phone sex and she would want me to talk about myself raping her. I tried it once or twice and I was so bad at it that she stopped asking me to phone rape her. Last I checked she moved across the country to probably get fake-raped by another internet boyfriend of hers.
If you dictate such a profound life decision based on some bizarre cause célèbre, you are overreacting. If you just make reactionary comments on the Internet, sure, carry on.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say
When we were dating I told my to be wife she should not trust any man even me.
Personally, I have raped exactly the number of women in my life that I have wanted to. 0.
Just because you are a man, it does not automatically make you untrustworthy, but it is prudent to exercise caution with all people in general—we are unpredictable apes.
yeah I have since amended to really just people in general. Another thing people need to remember is that unfortunately people tend to be screwed by the people closest to them. We are a sad little species.
We are a normal species. It is not unusual for animals to pick on the weak—just look at how many mammals eat the runt of the litter.
The lesson, I believe, is to take your own protection seriously, and not underestimate the potential of people around you due to familiarity. Hope for the best, be prepared for the worst.
yeah the last sentence is perfect.
People are definitely shit, in general, but we shouldn’t ignore statistics because of that. Men are awful. We’re the worst.
seems way toooo lite a sentence
For him, it will be life.
It’s the maximum sentence in france, I believe.
Sounds like a great place to be a criminal
I think you underestimate how long 20 years is. But yes, in europe we usually try to improve someone while in prison so we get back a funtioning member of society, not enslave them for life like in the US.
Her face in that thumbnail, so happy, and I think a bit at peace too. True complete peace with the horror that she’s faced will be a long time coming, but she’s channeled that immediate rage into justice. And started a larger movement to combat the ingrained misogyny in their (ours?) culture. It’s way too short a sentence for him, but he probably won’t make it out alive.
It’s the maximum legal sentence, and 20 years is absolutely no joke
A real shame. With that many assaults, it really should have been a longer sentence.
He got the maximum sentence.
depends on if they had chosen to sentence him for 51 crimes or one crime with 51 incidences. They should have sentenced the husband to 51x20 years, or 1020 years in prison.
That’s not how it works in France at all. You get prosecuted on all charges, but only condemned for the most grievous offense. So for a murder+assault+trespassing case, if found guilty of all charges, your sentence would only be for murder.
As all condemnation it takes context into account, like the assault + trespassing, but if there were limits on murder sentences then you’d only be sentence-able to that crime’s legal sentencing limits (there are none for murder, which is the only crime that has no sentencing limits).
The US prison system is made for maximal punishment instead of giving a chance for redemption.
The idea is to keep the prisoners away from society for as long as possible… And got further twisted by for-profit prison as the longer the sentence is, the longer they keep their slave… Sorry, prisoners, for cheap labor.
We’re in France.
Looked it up: “French sentencing law generally forbids consecutive sentencing”
Today I learned. My bad, thanks.
20 years is oz of pot numbers
This is France
Sir this is a Wendy’s
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Whoosh?
(In case this doesn’t translate, this indicates you completely missed that this is the point of the joke. It is funny in a very very dark way that my country will put people in jail for 20 years over a few doses of marijuana while France picks the same time frame for gang-raping and drugging a woman. In most instances I think the french numbers would be more sane, but in this case I think those men deserve life in prison because they cannot be redeemed and must be removed from society.)
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Haven’t seen a single person defending them, tbh.
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That one doesn’t seem a fair shot. All criminals, no matter how egregious, are defended by somebody.
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We live in a society
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Like what if reading too many science books actually was illegal and you could go to jail for that?
That’s an odd thing to compare to rape
It would fucking suck if all you wanted was so easily reachable and achievable without harm to anyone but totally illegal.
Do tell sir, how what this woman went through wasn’t ’harming anyone’.
Well the main difference there would be between this case and sex between you and your wife I’d hope would be there was consent between you two.
There should always be consent. That’s number 1.
You want your wife to drug you and then let 50 men rape you?
Well, if you consent to that, then nobody will go to jail and all will be well.
Unless the drugs are illegal, I guess. Use legal drugs and write your consent. Have a lawyer look it over. Then, have fun!
I should have read the words
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