• @[email protected]
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    No responsible board should sell as much as a paper clip to this sociopathic weenis piss baby.

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      Now give me an example of a corporate board at Intel’s scale being responsible when given the choice between being responsible or buttloads of short-term profits.

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      Responsible to who?
      Of course they will sell if there’s a profit to be made. Companies exist to make profits, if they can make a profit from it, it’s actually their responsibility to the shareholders to do it.

      Maybe you mean responsible in some way that has to do with morals, but if you think morals apart from staying within the law, have any say in this whatsoever, you are being very naive. That’s not at all how the system works.

      That said I don’t see any other way than corruption for Musk to be interested. Musk buys Intel, and Trump doubles the subsidies to Intel and give them extra sweet government contracts. And everybody profit, except the stupid taxpayers including those that voted Trump.

      Only the law helps super capitalist narcissists to stay at least somewhat within moral norms.
      And in USA the law doesn’t even count anymore. So there you go, everything is fucked up, until Americans figure it out. Which means it will be fucked up for a loooong time.

  • @[email protected]
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    This was always the inevitable outcome of capitalism. Just some rich lying dipshit buying the world.

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        Yeah.

        And there’s a very good chance that Elon spends his waning years in and out of every court, trying to stay out of jail.

        Source: Rockefeller’s biography.

        And that’s actually the optimistic version, from Elon’s perspective. There’s been plenty of rich assholes in history that didn’t have to worry about the courts.

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          142 months ago

          Epstein doesn’t have to worry about the courts anymore

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          Not doing to happen in this political climate. The robber barons has nothing in the tech companies.

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          I mean really depends whether or not he manages to continue to succesfully own the US government. He made basically statements along the lines of if trump loses the election he could go to jail. I assume he’s betting on either the trump administration killing democracy… or being able to buy the next election too. Or perhaps just often enough that the supreme court never gets fixed.

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            Yeah. Rockefeller pretty much owned the government in his heyday, too.

            And then at some point he didn’t anymore. Money can buy power, but it does run out eventually.

            Rockefeller was a lot smarter than Musk, and got a bit ahead of it with publicity stunt donations, before his influence ran out.

            Musk thinks he can achieve a better outcome by controlling the media or the courts.

            I think it’s objectively true that controlling the media does work, but I also think Musk wildly overestimates his own competence, and is in for a worse time than Rockefeller had.

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      He hasn’t bought it yet, maybe everyone else will stay buying Intel stocks after this news and it’ll get too expensive for him.

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      x86 is already dead yo

      edit: downvoters don’t understand they are using amd64 and not x86 lol wtf

      edit 2: downvoters of this comment are computer-illiterate

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        It’s very much not? It’s not even certain if an alternative architecture will ever fully replace it

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          To me x86 is currently in similar position to internal combustion engine cars. We are already almost certain some of the alternatives available right now are better.

          The reason ICE/x86 seem better is that they have the benefit of being greatly optimised due to years of market dominance pulling billions if not trillions of dollars into research. Some company has to sacrifice a lot of money to get the ball rolling on new tech as it is very difficult for an emerging technology to break old tech dominance. However considering Apple seems to be pulling similar numbers on a way less developed architecture I d say we might be close.

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            I don’t know enough about the subjects to go into details, but I know enough to say that that is reductive. ARM/alternatives are not inherently better, at least not universally. And, especially because of the inertia, I do not expect x86 to be fully replaced on the desktop any time soon. The motivations behind companies such as Apple using ARM likely have more to do with licensing than anything else

            It’s probably more useful to think of x86 and ARM as slightly different tools that are slightly better suited to different tasks. Desktop, server (and possibly high-performance) computing are x86’s specialty, and I do not expect it to be replaced

            All-in-all, from what I know, the practical differences between ARM and x86 are nowhere near large enough to be compared to something like the electric vs internal combustion engine. It’s probably closer to a difference of, say, a typical train and a subway

            But, please read up on this yourself. I am not an expert in hardware, this is just what i casually picked up as a layperson

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              x86 is dead. Has been for years. You’ve been using amd64. I am not referring to ARM

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            This is how capitalism shoots itself in the foot. It’s not actually the best system for progressing as quickly as possible.

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            x86 has been dead for years and you have been using amd64

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          x86 has been dead for years. y’all are using amd64. Or do y’all not know the difference?

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        x86 is the architecture, amd64 is an extention on that architecture so it’s still x86 just with an instruction set extension that allows for native 64 bit computing.

        x86 was designed to be nearly fully backwards compatible back to the i386 or even the 8086 so whatever code that could run on those CPUs would work on modern “amd64” CPUs.

        Pretty much x86 is a snowball rolling down a hill. It keeps picking up new things and growing as time goes on but the core of it will always be the same.

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          What are you smoking? x86 has been gone for years. Y’all are using amd64.

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            It’s always amusing when someone thinks they know something, then aggressively tells others, only to be wrong.

            amd64, also known as x86_64 is an extension to x86. It’s still x86 in the same way a car is still a car even if you bolt a trailer onto it.

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        good point. It still makes me smile how that one went down. imagine if we were all on f’ing itanium instead.

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    Look at the way Tesla collects and treats customer data, and the way Musk seems to unilaterally abuse his control over the companies he owns for personal reasons.

    Now think about the capabilities of the Intel Management Engine that pretty much every Intel CPU requires.

    Bad vibes, I say.

    For those feeling out of the loop, see here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

    Tldr - it’s a little always on processor, running a Minix OS, with direct access to all board devices including the Ethernet Controller.

    AMD has something similar in form of their Platform Security Processor.

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      If Intel didn’t have yield issues for over a decade, wouldn’t they be much further ahead than AMD by now?

      Kinda weird how their production problems conveniently coincide with what will keep them “neck n’ neck” with the competition for as long as possible.

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        Intel made some massive mistakes with their post 14nm nodes, they overextended and fell on their own sword.

        Admittedly what Intel were aiming for with their “10nm” node had higher density than tsmc’s “7nm” (from memory), considering the timeframe that would have been another massive leap for Intel; and if they had pulled it off AMD would be struggling like the bulldozer days.

        22nm to 14nm Intel were on fire, almost seemed untouchable for quite some time. X99 was (in my eyes) the biggest leap in the right direction and probably their best consumer platform ever released. Huge cache, moar cores, pcie lanes for days and a refresh on their latest node (6950x).

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        Yep. Citizens’ United guaranteed that by allowing corporations to funnel an unlimited amount of money into campaigns.

        Just a heads up, if spending wasting egregious amounts of money didn’t influence the outcome of elections, why would people do it?

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    On one hand “noooo!” But on the other this would be great for ARM and RISC-v if Intel tanks.

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      Screw ARM honestly, they don’t need any help. RISC-V though as the only open source of any significance, absolutely!

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        What about POWER9? You can buy a complete workstation right now, with an open source CPU, Board, BIOS. It’ll cost you an arm, a leg, and probably some more internal organs, but it is currently more functional than RISC-V.

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          Never heard of it, wanna pitch its benefits?

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            I mean, you probably heard of PowerPC. IBM kept working on that, is still working on it. They’re at Power10 now, but that has some proprietary blobs, as opposed to POWER9.

            I’d say that it’s mainly cool because it’s an architecture with enough performance for modern stuff, that is completely open source. No proprietary BIOS, no Management Engine running unknown code. Also, pretty stable, supposedly.

            Only supported by Linux, some BSDs, and some proprietary IBM *nixes, if you wanna say you have a system that literally can’t run Windows.

            If you want fun facts, the currently 9th most powerful supercomputer, Summit, runs on it, I guess.

            The hardware is too expensive for pretty much anyone to actually wanna use it, but oh well, what do you do.

            You can get yourself a workstation for about $10k here. https://www.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/intro.html

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      Hooray for Risc-v, anyway.

      I think I joke too often about ruling benevolently over the world’s robots someday after everyone lays off their Cybersecurity staff.

      But if we continue this trend, this community may have the only clean secure laptops after everyone else sells out and fills their shit with backdoors.

      Maybe we can rule together as a benevolent collective…

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      I’m the short term it will be good for AMD, in the long term they will lose the need to invest in research and development, start cutting corners and up prices for sub par chips. Bad news for consumers.

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    He’s going to rename the i series to something ridiculous like i69, i420, i1337, and iX isn’t he?

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    https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/elon-musk-buying-intel-could-be-poor-outcome-says-citi-1034241743

    This is the only reputable outlet that had anything to say about it.

    They reference SemiAccurate as the source, which I have not heard of before, but seems to have a solid track record with accurate reporting.


    GET. FUCKED. MUSK.

    I have to say, having an all-AMD setup makes me feel slightly okay today, even though AMD is just another shit company. At least it’s not in the running to be owned by that fucking tool.

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      The problem is not your own setup - the fact that Intel is still huge in the server market (and very likely will be for a long time as AMD still is not up to their level in some applications) is the concerning issue.

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    This rumor sounds like a crypto pump and dump.

    Please buy Intel stock so we can sell ours!!

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      I thought the cross licensing deal between AMD and Intel basically collapses if one gets bought out?

      So intel wouldn’t be able to make 64 bit processors any more?