• @[email protected]
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    982 months ago

    Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.

    Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.

    • DominusOfMegadeus
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      392 months ago

      We should give Elon more billions as an interim bonus instead.

      -The Tesla board, probably

      • @[email protected]
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        The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.

    • @[email protected]
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      232 months ago

      The board is filled with family and close friends. They’ll protect him as long as possible.

      • @[email protected]
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        92 months ago

        It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          Good, let the USA burn their money and tank their economy bailing out a company nobody would buy a car from

    • @[email protected]
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      82 months ago

      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions

      On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 months ago

        He would need to get rid of his stock before I even consider buying from any of his companies’ products.

        Not getting starlink for my van. I guess I’ll have to stick close to cell towers on work days.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 months ago

      Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 months ago

      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder

      If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.

      They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

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        The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.

        Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 months ago
        1. Large shareholders can’t just sell. There are rules to prevent stock manipulation
        2. He’d be the first victim of tanking the stock. Not in his best interest
        3. He can’t sell any shares used for collateral
    • @[email protected]
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      32 months ago

      Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk.

      They could have done this a LONG time ago… now the damage is done. Nobody would care he is no longer CEO (although that may help Tesla develop better cars), people are not going to want to drive a Swasticar anyway nor give money to a literal Nazi

      Short of selling all his stock and completely disappearing from the public eye, Musk completely destroyed Tesla. There are simply better options that do not include helping/associating with a Nazi

    • @[email protected]
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      22 months ago

      I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.

      • @[email protected]
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        92 months ago

        Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 months ago

      I think him being the shareholder is the problem. I don’t care if we was to step down as CEO, I want to see him hurt financially. Especially since he bought twitter off his Tesla stocks. Hit his stock hard enough and when it comes time to pay for twitter, he’ll be fucked.

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        12 months ago

        You’re right, but I suspect most people wouldn’t see it that way with regards to Tesla. Depending on the terms of his current compensation package, I suspect it would be better for him financially if he just stepped down and held onto the stock.

        But he’s such a narcissist that he’d never do that.

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      If they fire him as the CEO. Now that would be interesting to see the turning events of that whole company. It would definitely salvage the massive amount of loss within their company. Which is insane because they would just have to fire Elon as the CEO. But I don’t know if they can salvage the company because the reputation of it all. The damage is massive.

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    At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.

    • @[email protected]
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      532 months ago

      Tesla’s aren’t selling?

      1. Set them on fire.
      2. Claim that it’s arson.
      3. File insurance claim.
      4. Profit.
      • @[email protected]
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        82 months ago

        I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.

        Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 months ago

          He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 months ago

              Upvote for Knowledge Fight!

              I used to listen to Alex Jones for fun way before he was big. It was genuinely entertaining. Then Sandyhook happened and it wasn’t so funny anymore.

              Knowledge Fight is like finding friends to make fun of Alex Jones with :)

            • @[email protected]
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              22 months ago

              Such a great podcast! Absolute Talmudic in its thoroughness.

              ‘Know Rogan’ is a pretty good new addition if you haven’t checked it out yet.

              • @[email protected]
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                22 months ago

                I’ll check it out!

                I count myself among the lucky who has never heard that overgrown thumb talk for longer than a sound bite.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          “It’s a fact: jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to make steel girders melt! It was the lithium-ion batteries from a Model Y and a Cybertruck fired by railgun into the Twin Towers, with Dick Cheney and Saul of Saul’s 3rd Avenue Deli pulling the triggers. People seen jumping out of windows were actually trans crisis actors wearing batwing suits, who nowadays tour encampments of Venezuelan gang members and Haitian cat rustlers across the Heartland with their drag, Spanish-language version of Hamilton. Buy my supplements!

          Whoa, sorry, don’t know what came over me there.

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        I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        Probably. Unfortunately side effect is it constantly reinforce in people, “wow people really hate teslas” and further damaging the brand. I find it hard to believe Canadians would due this kind of a thing. Not that they couldn’t, i just have a hard time believing it.

        • @[email protected]
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          -52 months ago

          It does. A dealership is an independent entity. If cars were purposely being damaged, it would be Tesla doing that and not another company that sells Tesla vehicles.

          • sepi
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            62 months ago

            The corporate structure is not what the grandparent is referring to, it’s committing arson to defraud insurance that he’s really referring to. Any other “aKsHuALlY” details you added are distinctions without difference.

            • @[email protected]
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              02 months ago

              There is a huge difference between an independently owned franchise committing arson vs the manufacturer.

  • @[email protected]
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    402 months ago

    In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”

    The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.

    And if it bleeds we can kill it.

      • @[email protected]
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        92 months ago

        Useful idiots don’t get a pass for what they’ve done.

        The man was a piece of shit before the first car rolled off. If you didn’t know it’s because you didn’t care.

        Quite frankly we need to start shaming people bad for the products they buy because money is support under capitalism. If you buy something you are supporting that company and all the evil they do.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 months ago

          The cars are fine, it’s the family and board that are dirty and rotten.

          You cannot seriously claim that all 100k Tesla employees are Nazis just by association. That’s ridiculous. It’s a car company.

          Hell, Henry Ford was a Nazi.

    • AizawaC47
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      32 months ago

      We need anonymous to dismantle Twitter and plummet it all so it can be amongst all the other apps that went to the grave.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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        22 months ago

        If the bots and toxicity haven’t killed it, I don’t know what we could even do at this point.

        • AizawaC47
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          12 months ago

          Ugh you are correct, I just wish there was a way to send a virus or something towards the bots. There has to be a way to dismantle them permanently.

  • Elaine Cortez
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    282 months ago

    Not all that surprising that Canadians are especially pissed off. Didn’t he say Canada isn’t a real country and then he deleted the Tweet afterwards? Yes he did…

    • AizawaC47
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      62 months ago

      Of course he would have deleted it, so nice capture! And thanks for sharing. What a loser manchild -Elon

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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      32 months ago

      Wow. He actually deleted a Tweet? He usually stands by all the stupid shit he’s said, proudly at that.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 months ago

        The entire point of the “blame Canada” joke is that it’s making fun of people who tried to blame their own problems on something that had nothing to do with the underlying cause for those problems.

        In the song Kenny’s parents literally say “should we blame the matches, or should we blame the fire, or the doctors who allowed him to expire? no blame Canada!”

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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          The final verse really drives the nail home just in case anyone in the audience somehow didn’t get it:

          Blame Canada
          Shame on Canada
          For the smut we must stop, the trash we must smash
          The laughter and fun must all be undone
          We must blame them and cause a fuss
          Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

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      The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”

      Probably about the same as any other car.

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        72 months ago

        I’d imagine that they’ll be more expensive to insure in the future if they are getting targeted en masse.

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    When Trump said he’d prosecute tesla vandals “with the full force of the law” it really highlights the unequal enforcement in our system. Its like saying “I’m going to turn on law enforcement right now just for this issue”. He clearly does not believe in laws or law enforcement, or else he’d see how absurd a statement it was.

    This and their dismantling of the EPA, IRS, FBI, and justice system shows that republicans are soft on crime, soft on wealthy tax evaders, soft on the legal system in general, and disrespectful of law enforcement, except insomuch as they can be used as personal storm troopers for issues they care about-- usually to promote racism and class stomping of the poors.

    Republicans are soft on America, but rock hard for Russia. I hope republican voters are proud.

  • @[email protected]
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    142 months ago

    It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.

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      It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.

      Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 months ago

        For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.

        Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.

        • Ghostalmedia
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          72 months ago

          Ok, but the point still remains. This vandalism isn’t about the cars. It’s about taking money out of a billionaire’s pocket. People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.

          It’s not about the cars, the cars and stores are just an accessible target. This is about Musk and DOGE.

          • Null User Object
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            62 months ago

            People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.

            Hold my beer. *picks up rock

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          Don’t even get me started on how car companies bought those lovely trams just to dismantle them afterwards

  • @[email protected]
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    72 months ago

    American here, careful Canadians you’re walking on thin ice. We’re about to beg for your eggs while kneeling rather than grovelling on the floor. I’m fucking serious, we won’t pay a dime more than $1 per egg. Pretty please. This is your last warning.

  • @[email protected]
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    72 months ago

    Aura Carreño Rosas is a Hamilton-based reporter from Venezuela, with a passion for pop culture and unique people with diverse journeys.

    What??? A Venezuelan who hasn’t been rounded up, deported and slung into in a third world concentration camp without even the pretense of due process?!?

    Come on Canadia, is that really the kind of country you want to live in???

    /s