I’m so sure that this will happen…

  • edric
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    24 days ago

    Aka they save on delivery costs and your new car racks up miles on your own dime before you even get to drive it.

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      24 days ago

      Imagine it gets into an accident lol.

      Who gets charged?

      If you thought insurance was expensive before…

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        3724 days ago

        “we planned for this edge case, and have programmed the vehicle to quickly leave the scene of any accident where a driver is not present. by accepting delivery (by purchasing a vehicle) you accept that all vehicles are sold as-is. tesla insurance customers get half-off repair claim deductibles for the first 7 days.”

      • @[email protected]
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        924 days ago

        Surely it would be Tesla since you don’t actually have possession of it, right? Right??

    • Phoenixz
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      4424 days ago

      Yeah, no.

      That would be true if any of this self driving shit actually existed, but it doesn’t. Elmo lies. A lot. About everything. So this? He’s just lying again .

      • @[email protected]
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        -124 days ago

        It does, and I’ve heard its safer than humans in some cases, but there’s legal issues in the way. Like if a driverless car kills someone, who’s fault is it?

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          323 days ago

          Where do you get any of that?

          No, Elmo cara do not drive themselves. On the 5 steps to full self driving, Teslas barely make it to step 2. Full self driving doesn’t exist yet for any brand but most definitely not for Tesla

    • @[email protected]
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      424 days ago

      If it waives the destination fee, then I don’t see it as a bad problem depending on how much it would normally cost to deliver vs how many miles.

      • Midnight Wolf
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        724 days ago

        Dealers: charge bullshit fee

        Mftr: “get rid of this bullshit fee by racking up miles right from the factory”

        Customer: “this is such a phenomenal deal!”

        • @[email protected]
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          124 days ago

          bullshit fee

          Do you think shipping and transportation of goods is free? Do you think truck drivers drive stuff around out of the goodness of their hearts?

          • Midnight Wolf
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            624 days ago

            Nope, but it also isn’t my problem. Roll it into the price of the car, like everything else, and it can be part of the price that you can discuss and haggle over. Coming to a 50k price just to see another 1k+ this and 1.5k that tacked on is absolute bullshit.

            • @[email protected]
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              124 days ago

              Except that not every place is next to the car factory. Delivery to Portland, Maine is going to be a much different price in comparison to Austin, Texas. Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price? Do you know that those vary from location to location as well?

              • Logi
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                523 days ago

                Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price?

                As a European, yes. Absolutely fucking yes. I drove a Model 3 away (a while ago obviously) with all papers in order paying exactly the listed price.

                • @[email protected]
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                  123 days ago

                  In the USA taxes and titling cost different amounts depending on where you live. It’s easier to calculate once you buy, especially if you are buying in another state than the one you reside in which is a big problem in my state where dealers don’t stock EVs. I had to go to the nearest large city which is in another state from where I reside to get my Bolt EUV.

                  You can calculate before you buy and each state usually has at least a chart to ballpark what you’ll pay. The easiest way to calculate these taxes would be to not levy them against people to begin with.

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                324 days ago

                When did I say that every place was near an assembly line…? I said ‘not my problem’. It’s a company, they can figure it out.

                And yes, yes I do. Again, not my problem. It’s almost like different locations can set different prices or something to compensate for variables. Amazing, what a concept!

                • @[email protected]
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                  024 days ago

                  Advertising cars would never be feasible on nationally broadcast TV under your system.

                  They did figure out the problem though. Price set by the manufacture, show cost for delivery on the window sticker, then when you buy they car the title and tax are figured out for where you live. It’s the fairest and easiest way of showing and figuring the price. If you can’t figure out that window stickers are available online and the tax and title yourself before you buy, that’s a you problem. It’s not on the seller nor the manufacturer to post pricing for every state or municipality.

                  If you want cleaner pricing, demand an end to titling and car taxes.

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          Eh, I live <1k miles from a Tesla factory, and I wouldn’t be too annoyed at having 1k miles on it when it gets to me. Knock the price down a bit since you no longer need to ship it everywhere and we’re good.

          We all know this isn’t happening anytime soon, so I guess it’s only a hypothetical. We can talk once it’s a reality.

          • @[email protected]
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            124 days ago

            I’d want whatever the warranty was to be the same plus the miles.

            So if it’s 5 year 50k miles and I get it at 1k, I 'd want 5 year 51k miles.

      • @[email protected]
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        124 days ago

        It doesnt waive that fee because it is a federally required fee to be applied to all vehicles regardless of their… destination. Uhg.

    • @[email protected]
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      1424 days ago

      Assuming there is any reality to this (big assumption), I assume you are looking at the distance to the nearest distribution center (so Tesla “Not a dealership for legal reasons”). So a lot closer to hundred than not.

      Mostly because Factory->House requires a lot of automated charging technology. Whereas Factory->Truck->Dealership->House still lets them take advantage of scale (a truck truck) and can go on a single battery charge.

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        Yeah, I live like 10 miles from a Tesla dealership, about 1k from a Tesla factory. If having the car drive to me is cheaper than loading it on a truck and taking it to my local dealership, I’m fine with it having 1k miles.

        This is all hypothetical though. There’s no way this timeframe is happening.

  • @[email protected]
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    5724 days ago

    Anytime Elon says anything about Tesla with a timeframe, you can guaran damn tee that it will not happen within that time frame.

    • @[email protected]
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      824 days ago

      If you double it, you might actually be somewhat close to hearing a believable date for the actual time frame.

      • @[email protected]
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        423 days ago

        That’s not going to be enough…the dude claimed “coast to coast” autonomous driving capabilities “by end of the year” back in 2016.

    • billwashere
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      2323 days ago

      Ah so more market manipulation… got it. Jesus I hate this douchebag.

    • @[email protected]
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      2324 days ago

      Tesla lost 6% of its value today so I’m sure Elmo felt compelled to find something to pull out of his ass.

  • @[email protected]
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    3724 days ago

    He’s always lied about the self-driving capabilities of the cars and promised timelines that have never held. Print this statement out and use it as toilet paper

  • @[email protected]OP
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    2624 days ago

    Tesla will begin its roll out of its self-driving Robotaxi fleet in multiple US cities in the months to come, already taking appropriate regulatory steps in both California and Texas.

    Anyone want to take bets on how many deaths/injuries will there be before they’re pulled?

    Infinite is valid all things considered.

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      824 days ago

      Anyone want to take bets on how many deaths/injuries will there be before they’re pulled?

      DOGE will make sure it won’t be pulled. They’ll shut down any administration that tries.

      This LiDAR tech vs Tesla video makes me wish Tesla will use LiDAR in their self-driving Robotaxi fleet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ&t=556s

      • @[email protected]
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        224 days ago

        They won’t. Musk has a hard-on for doing everything with visible cameras for some stupid reason.

        • @[email protected]
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          224 days ago

          Because he’s cheap and didn’t wanna spend the money. It’s why the interior is so plain for the amount of money you spend.

    • @[email protected]
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      224 days ago

      Infinite is valid all things considered.

      Not really. I mean that would require a timeline where humanity is both stupid enough to keep Tesla around and survives indefinitely which is highly unlikely.

        • @[email protected]
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          224 days ago

          Okay, in that case I guess it is possible that we are stupid enough to keep them around and stupid enough to wipe ourselves out so soon that they will be around until the end of humanity.

    • @[email protected]
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      523 days ago

      That guy is a) a relentless liar and b) absolutely insane Why would you say those things? Why contradict yourself at 20 days interval publicly?

    • @[email protected]
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      323 days ago

      Didn’t know that list.

      Though, for all I hate the guy, there are a lot of misleading assertions in that list.

    • @[email protected]
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      624 days ago

      I used to about some things, like when he talked about the how the spaceX rockets worked, but then he went insane. And now I’ve heard there’s a pretty good chance that starship isn’t gunna archive much at all, because its too heavy from the stainless steel they used to make it.

  • @[email protected]
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    2324 days ago

    MY new Tesla? Doubt it. Considering I’m unemployed due to this clown administration and I don’t tend to upgrade much of anything, let alone a vehicle, unless/until the old one no longer functions.