Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy have sat down for a face-to-face talk in the opulent halls of a Vatican basilica to discuss a possible ceasefire, after which the US president accused his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, of not wanting to “stop the war”.
The White House described Trump’s meeting with the Ukrainian leader before Pope Francis’s funeral as “very productive”, while Zelenskyy said on X that the talk with the US president was symbolic and had the “potential to become historic, if we achieve joint results”.
It was the first time that Zelenskyy and Trump had met face to face after a frosty February encounter in the White House where Trump and the US vice-president, JD Vance, berated the Ukrainian leader and accused him of ingratitude for US aid.
It’s amazing how this man’s brain is so feeble that he just fully believes what the last person he met with him tells him.
I need to see this play out like a heist movie. Two opposing advisors are battling each other to get their idea in his head for the big speech. They get into some zany hijinks trying to be the last to speak to him. Some real spy vs spy stuff.
Inception of the stupid. Written, Directed and Produced by the Coen Brothers.
I believe that in the medical community this is called Joe Rogan’s Disease
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Vlad wants to end the war. On his terms though, cause he knows he can get it.
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Chances have been looking good for russia. I don’t believe Europe has the capacity to deal with russians by themselves, they’d really have to ramp up manufacturing.
There was literally no scenario where Russia could possibly lose this war. Anybody who has an even minimally functioning brain understood this long before the war began.
It’s not even a war according to Putin lol
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Imagine being so historically ignorant as to try and draw comparisons between the two.
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Ah yes, the fall of USSR when millions of people had their lives ruined of course would be the day somebody like you would celebrate.
What is the strategic advantage for Russia for continuing the war?
If I had to guess (my knowledge is a couple of geopolitics books), I’d say Russia wants to create a rift between East and West that is beneficial to China as well. China helped Russia build a quantum computer recently and there are more clues that they’re getting even closer together. I think Russia wants to shake the current world order.
Why does maintaining a war, which consumes resources, laborers, and focus/attention, and also creates security threats, be beneficial to Russia for shaking the current world order?
Russia has been cut out from the West, it couldn’t even participate in the Olympics. So it got closer to China. Its economy is resilient despite the war. Russia has also been the leading country in the BRICS in regard to finding an alternative to the dollar together with Brazil. And it is working to ditch SWIFT (the banking system). So I’d say Russia is pretty interested into getting away from the West, at least economically and politically.
Why does staying at war on Ukraine advance these aims?
Because it deepens the rift. Donald Trump as president also helps Putin a lot, as the russian president have said before, since Trump also wants to shake things up. As could be seen by his tariff policies.
How does continuing the war deepen the rift? Clearly it strengthens the resolve of European countries to develop their militaries and build alliances.
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So you’re saying that Putin is behaving irrationally and emotionally based on ego?
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Is it because Russia hasn’t been defeated, maybe?
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You said Putin cannot admit defeat for some reason and I asked if the reason he cannot admit defeat is because Russia has not been defeated yet.
In his mind he’s ~6’ 3", ~230 lbs with an IQ of 150.
He truly thinks that world leaders look up to him and that he’s playing everyone else.
If you can’t tell whether Trump is an idiot, then sorry I can’t help you.
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The issue is figuring out whether any given statement is due to stupidity or maliciousness.
Something odd is happening with the right, seems like they’re trying to hedge their bets for blowback.
Trump definitely knew this all along, to say this now seems like damage control.
Then earlier this week Rogan calling out the deportations to El Salvador without a trial, saying it was an overcorrection to the left that has gone too far.
I wonder if the American people will buy it.
Its weirder than that, had someone on lemmy try to convince me that deportations, purity tests and fascism are all far left policies. Its like they’re trying to shift all their own shit onto some imaginary other.
It’s a common take that the left are fascists because we …want LGBTQ+ etc to be accepted. Fucking bizarre.
Hey hey, we also want people not to starve or go into horrific debt because of medical issues. Super clear indicators of fascism or something.
Those are all bidens/obama polices tho
And that’s why they’re not left
They are all fascist policies that the US “left” (a.k.a. liberals/Democrats) support
Overcorrection to the LEFT???
his words not mine but yeah that’s what he said
meaning he’s over correcting as a response to what the left was doing
tapping me along
Anyone got a trump-to-english conversion for this one?
When you get tapped along, it’ll make your covfefe hamberders yippy.
I love tesler
Bigly? SAD
“Tapping me along” made me imagine someone tapping a golf ball. Nudging it, but not making a big swing, it could be indicative of a subtle influence.
Trump may not know a lot about a lot, but he spends enough time golfing to potentially use a metaphor from it. On the other hand, I’ve never golfed (except the mini kind), so I could be way off.
Ever see a really well trained dog where all you have to do is tap the spot beside you and they bound over to you and dutifully sit in that spot?
Scene: DJT standing awkwardly at a table. Beside him, sitting on the floor is Vladimir Putin with his Entire Arm shoved up DJT’s ass.
DJT: I’m starting to think Putin might be manipulating me.
lol this dood is such an idiot
A rare lucid moment
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He promised me a reach around!
Trump should know how to recognize tapping people along, it’s one of his signature moves, right up there with tax fraud, stiffing creditors and strategic bankruptcy.
Rape bruh
Treason and a riot
ROFLMAO
Everybody plays him, but he’s not smart enough to see it.
I want to offer a long history of how everyone saw this coming but I think “LOL” is the best response
He’s Putin me on!
I wonder [not to give him any credit] if DJT would be a better president if he were surrounded by actual decent people that were earnest/honest. It feels like it could be in the realm of possibility that he’s treating the Ukraine/Russia conflict the way he has simply because the people around him are only giving him a specific narrative surrounding it. Either intentionally, incidentally, due to incompetence or sycophantic attempts to “please” trump.
Maybe this is the first time getting it from Ukraine’s point of view, unfiltered.
Doesn’t change/nor justify his shitty behavior, but… it makes a kind of sense.
It wouldn’t surprise me. We are a product of our environment, and Trump is a very clear example of that. He tends to mimic and amplify whoever he thinks is the strongest/most powerful around him. He’s a LeFou in constant search of a Gaston.
That’s what his first term was. He either doesn’t listen to good advice or doesn’t care. Either way, it’s still a shitshow.
The human embodiment of Internet Explorer, everyone.
