Transition from: Designed for Cars to Designed for People, Cars, and Bikes
…I mean, cars ended up better too. Hella lot more clarity after.
Exactly! The design forces everyone to drive more slowly and deliberately. If I was a driver I would be very pleased. The only people that hate this are speeders.
bro you don’t understand i have to reach the traffic light 2 seconds faster PLEASE
I dunno. Paths are clearer and easier to predict, lanes are more defined. In good circumstances, you can safely speed more than before. Not that it’s good idea, but it literally doesn’t take away anything from drives while massively improving safety, clarity and elegance.
When paths are narrow and the sidewalks busy (people, trees, benches, etc) drivers subconsciously slow down because it feels faster. Inversely, drivers speed up in wide open areas because it feels slower. This has been well studied and rebutted earlier urban design principles that thought narrow streets and obstacles caused traffic accidents.
That’s one of the recurring ironies. Most of the stuff anti-car-culture people are pushing for (eg: more trains, this photo, etc) make it better for the people who do drive
But fuck this shit:
I want my zebra back, this is not visible from far away. And if I don’t see a crosswalk anywhere nearby, then I shall cross the road anywhere convenient.
This I like:
Bratislava’s barely visible pedestrian crossings also tripped me the fuck out when I was there but then I realized you can actually cross wherever it’s convenient because drivers are not out to kill you.
It looks like it’s a signalized crossing now. Depending on the timing settings of the traffic lights and the speed limit this can be better for people walking. Particularly when it has a sensor to see when everyone is done crossing.
Zebra crossings can be very challenging for disabled people, like visual impairments and mobility issues. These groups can feel very vulnerable using such a crossing because there is no auditory confirmation.
There might be better solutions though if the speed limit is lowered.
Up until recently zebras were used everywhere, including on signalized crossings.
The extra challenge with this is/was that guide dogs aren’t/weren’t (yet) trained on it. Least that’s what I’ve seen in news at the end of last year.
Are there images in your comment that other people are seeing? I don’t see anything after your : characters except a few lines of white space.
Yeah. But Imgur blocks me because of my VPN, so I used Catbox. However Catbox is blocked in some countries.
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Edit: From FAQ, blocked in/on/by: Australia, Ireland, UK, Iran, Afghanistan, Comcast, Spectrum, Rogers, Verizon, Quad9.
I can access catbox from the UK, no VPN. But videos hosted on it often won’t show up on Connect(although they did until recently), so I have to view them via browser. I can see your images just fine.
Hmmm thanks for the info. I am in the US. It is probably just my Lemmy client, I’m using “Connect” fwiw.
The traffic light is visible from far away and at a traffic light it’s almost always possible to cross a road.
This is the norm in some countries.
The one you dislike is better for two wheel vehicles (bicycles and motorbikes), the paint of the crossing is very slippery when wet.
There’s also non-slip paint which is what I see most nowadays.
This is why good infrastructure that is people focused is a win for everyone.
Everyone wins here including drivers with clear roadways and proper clear rules/signage.
I mean it sure looks more better.
Is it actually decent for 2020s? IDK.
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the signalled pedestrian crossing looks like a waste of time for everybody If this is one way, as the old one was it’s still very wide. Are you building for highway speeds? Same goes for curves.
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Was the right pedestrian crossing moved away from the desired path?
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Can we see more towards the bottom of the picture? It gets pretty wide for no obvious reason there. How are cyclists supposed to travel from the right side of the intersection to the left?
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If those are all one-ways, maybe it’d be a better use of space to give cyclists an separated counterflow lane?
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What’s up with bike parking that’s separated from the only bike lane with a lawn? That’s like the worst possible place for it, far from every possible destination.
Again, it sure looks nicer, but you kind of have to realize it’ll stay in that shape for 30, 40 maybe 60 years. So maybe build it really really well, this seems half-baked.
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Ermm, idk tbh, whenever roads are modernized, cars usually ended up better at the cost of pedestrains. Just eleminate roadways completely, imo.
