(yes, I also see that it says Chinease)

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      US looks very militaristic to me. It has a very broken democracy, and a history of supporting/causing brutal dictatorships.

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        The control the Chinese gov has over tiktok is on a different scale compared to Google and the US

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          Just to play devil’s advocate here, how many military bases has China got in other countries, compared to the US?

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            How many McDonald’s are there compared to general tso’s chicken?

            Both comparisons are irrelevant. It is about how much control and access China/US have over tiktok/Google and the user data and algorithms.

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          The US doesn’t try. It just bombs the fuck out of anyone worth exploiting production of anything any private exploitator willing to play “business” there wants.

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              Ghastly business, that. Unavoidable, really, and tragic. Anyways, here’s our top stories tonight: the US kills its own population with the most potent designer drugs in history, at a 0% tax revenue! “This is great for the economy”, according to Experts, who warn that the same measures would be “devastating” under Democratic rule.

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          “Um, technically when we lost all those wars for profit and oil, we didn’t seize any land. So, technically, we are the good guys.”

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      The things the CCP could do with political blackmail gathered from tiktok would make even Zuck blush.

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        129 months ago

        At the very least, Google and Facebook have to step back if caught. Meanwhile, Chinese companies often don’t care about EU privacy laws. Still avoid them altogether, any way.

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          Do they? They’ve been caught BIG TIME, and META stock price is at an ATH!

          Living like a street criminal for a decade sure puts international politics in perspective, because you can just see straight through the bullshit. It’s just bigger numbers, but the principles and human behavior stays 100% the same.

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          I’m honestly more worried about them knowing details on politicians and their families. The most they can do with some rando’s personal info is send them targeted propaganda. Knowing a handful of republican congressmen has lgbq relatives can be used to make them to shift policies.

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        As much as China is a festering cancer upon the world, I am willing to bet that for every single trademark horror that is taking place in their society, I could find a match or worse in the USA.

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      Thank you, this is my viewpoint exactly. We are exploited by both but one is after money, the other is a threat.

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          That’s like saying that Putin couldn’t hurt anyone outside of Russia yet he’s had multiple people killed in foreign countries.

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            Most of us are boring. We’re not oligarchs or investigative reporters, nor hold key posts in government or industry, nor are connected to dissenters. It’s not that he couldn’t but it’s almost impossible to see a scenario where either dictator would have an interest in most of us. I neither control anything they want nor block their way to it

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          Usually they can’t, but they can blackmail. Usually only if you’re really really deep in anti Pooh territory though. Pooh is vindictive and thin skinned like our spray tan guy. Spray tan could for example, work with Pooh to surveil and jail dissenters. It’s not that China is a threat to an individual American or other foreigner in a Western country per se, but as long as they could potentially leverage your data against you they do have a little threat. For the record Pooh and spray tan should be sent to an island together to… Oh shit nvm usually rich people and islands aren’t a good thing. 😂

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            If you’re someone influential enough to be blackmailed by the Chinese government and you’re using TikTok… You’re really stupid… but average TikTok user, really has nothing to be afraid of China, I think. TikTok is also after money, as far as I know (ads). They are a company. Like Huawei, they might have a close relationship with the Chinese government, similar with Google with the US government.

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            Nope. But how can an average TikTok user in USA be threatened by China? Concretely/ literally?

            I honestly think that Trump is a much greater threat to average American than using TikTok.

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      I doythink those are as different as you say. Through the Patriot Act, american corporate spying is US spying.

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      Now look you here- one party is a convicted serial rapist, the other party is elitist.

      They’re both criminals.

      So it doesn’t matter.

      Which is why you should vote for convicted serial rapist party.

      Nobody likes an elitist.

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      While they’re at completely different scales, plus will go to much different lengths to abuse what they find out, It comes down to personal peril. I know exactly how Google will use that surveillance data to my detriment and that they’ll openly sell it to more nefarious entities, however I fail to see how the Chinese government would ever have an interest in my data or in selling it.

      I don’t use Tik Tok or Huawei, but that’s for other reasons

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          Not at all. I understand storage and scaling are cheap, so it’s a great strategy to collect every piece of data about every person. Then you use whatever you need, whenever you need to.

          For example, it’s expensive to investigate a Congressman’s past to find that picture in drag for blackmail. It’s much cheaper to collect everything you can so once he becomes a Congressman you can simply search for connections and seconds later have that picture off his college buddy’s computer

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      This post is about China, but why are you talking about the US?