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@[email protected] to World [email protected] • 1 year ago

In Ukraine, Killings of Surrendering Russians Divide an American-Led Unit

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In Ukraine, Killings of Surrendering Russians Divide an American-Led Unit

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A German medic said he was so troubled that he confronted his commander. Others boasted about killings in a group chat.
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    Nazis doing warcrimes. Shocker!

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      • sunzu
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      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        Then how come all those other governments can seem to organize a simple photo op without nazi SS symbols?

      • Duży Szef [he/him]
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        Next thing you’ll tell me Hitler got into power because he got voted in lmao

        Why should I give a shit about the parliament when they exert their power differently?

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        Bold move using whataboutism for countries that don’t have national holidays for the nazi leader who was in charge of the holocaust in their regions

        Extremely appropriate that a “Mr Lemmy” is a nazi apologist.

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          lol. You got it all wrong ;-)

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        Isn’t it literally illegal to be a Nazi in Germany?

        No surprises for the Fr*nch though, read up on the nightmare shit they did in Algeria.

        • @[email protected]
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          Isn’t it literally illegal to be a Nazi in Germany?

          As always, it’s not illegal when you’re in the police while you’re doing this shit

          The German justice system has reported the discovery of Nazi symbols and child pornography in messages exchanged by police officers in a private group chat.

          Five police officers, aged 22 to 25 and from three different districts, were involved in sharing the illegal content, according to the public prosecutor in charge of the investigation.

        • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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          I mean it’s meant to be illegal in Austria, but I still saw a fuckload of Nazis when I went to a football game there.

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      • davel [he/him]
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        Is this a joke?

        • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part I: The Origins of the OUN 1917-1941
        • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part II: The OUN during World War 2, 1941-1945
        • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part III: 1944-1963 UPA War, Ratlines, and the Assassination of Stepan Bandera
        • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part IV: The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992
        • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
        • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
        • AP, 2014: Airstrike in eastern Ukraine kills 11 civilians
        • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
        • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
        • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
        • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
        • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
        • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
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        The Ukrainians?

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        • queermunist she/her
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          This is one of the US’s partners in the war:

          America loves Nazis, whether they’re Ukrainian Neonazis or Zionazis.

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            New Operation Gladio

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            The war is a classic example of fascist infighting

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              Fascists are nationalists. Fascists from different nations fighting each other isn’t really infighting, that’s just like, regular fighting.

              Not something we should be fueling at any rate. Heaven forbid anyone asks about a peace plan that isn’t total victory, though.

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                Yeah it’s tough to find a compromise when Russia seems to go for the total victory or at least a settlement of gains and Ukraine hopes for a stalemate without border changes.

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                  Russia has literally never intended to take and hold the whole of Ukraine. USA military intelligence has stated that this has been true since the beginning of the SMO. Your understanding of the world is inaccurate.

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                    What was the Kyiv offensive about then?

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                    I wasn’t the one bringing up total victory. I don’t know what level of invasion is their true intention, nor claim to know.

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                  Ukraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That’s hardly compromise.

                  • sunzu
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                    That’s right and as long as US and western allies keep up with deliveries there is a chance for Ukraine to achieve its objectives.

                    Ideally leading to Russian collapse.

                    Before you get bent out of shape about it is in possible…

                    Recent history does demonstrate that invading country that faces a determined opposition will generally have to go home with their dicks tucked.

                    How long can Russia spin this shot at home esp as Ukraine is striking critical assets deep within Russia.

                    And the west hasn’t even given Ukraine the best shit and permission to use it as needed.

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            • @[email protected]
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              ??? Why would old collaborators (of which decidents were justly punished later) hurt “the tankie”?

              Better mention banderites who ran off to the west where they were sucking up to CIA, MI6 and West German washed-nazi intelligence while murdering people left and right (in Germany, after war no less). it’s even in the wiki too.

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov-Ribbentrop_Pact

                what about this one?

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                  Molotov-Ribbentrop is a great example of liberals not being able to think for themselves. Hitler literally wrote in Mein Kampf that his goal was to destroy the communist movement, occupy Russia, and enslave the Slavs. It is literally impossible for the Soviets to believe they could form an alliance, which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

                  If you study the history around it, the USSR wanted absolutely nothing to do with war after its revolution because it wanted to focus all of its efforts on building a new nation. The treaty was negotiated in attempt to delay armed conflict as much as possible and to take advantage of contradictions in capitalism/fascism to create that extra time.

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                    which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

                    Enough to split up Poland tho haha

                    Cope harder boy

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                  Hey liberal, I’m a little fuzzy on dates. Did this happen before or after the Munich agreement? Before or after Stalin tried to ally with Britain and France against the Nazis?

                  • Duży Szef [he/him]
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                    And he asked Poland for permission too!

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    • @[email protected]
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      Assumes facts not in evidence.

      • queermunist she/her
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        Killing surrendering prisoners is a war crime.

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          Yeah, but they weren’t Germans from the 1930s, so the war crimes are fine

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