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  • @[email protected]
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    202 months ago

    Pretty naive to think that child labor dosen’t exists in China tbh. Maybe not at the scale of child factory workers that some western media like to depict, but at a smaller scale, in farming, family owned business and small isolated factories.

    • Phunter
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      82 months ago

      According to a couple news stories I’ve seen pop up from time to time, we have child labor in the US too. It’s not legal and the children are usually the children of illegal immigrants. Maybe it’s sort of the same deal over there i.e. desperate people doing desperate things despite the norm.

      • @[email protected]
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        172 months ago

        we have child labor in the US too. It’s not legal

        A lot of child labor in the US, is in fact, very legal.

        From the age of 10-15, working papers can be issued allowing children to deliver newspaper, hawk products on corners, and do limited farm work.

        From 15-17, working papers can be issues allowing children to pretty much do any job, with some limitations on hours, and tooling they can use (ie, no automatic sharp tools, like slicers).

        Now, these are for my state. Some states are far more exploitative, such as Georgia, where kids as young as 13 can work a fast food joint.

        • Phunter
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          72 months ago

          Now that you mention it, I was a soccer ref when I was 15. You’re right, it probably varies by state. I guess “child labor” is a pretty broad term that could include delivering newspapers and processing chicken on a factory floor.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          Yeah as an American that lives in a rural area, I started working at the age of 8 doing small jobs like penny saver delivery to help pay for groceries since my mom was wasting child support on booze and drugs.
          By 14 I was an assistant chef at a restaurant because I started as a dishwasher the year before and the other chefs quit or had a heart attack (miss you Bob). And I worked until 1am basically doing clean up and still had to go to school.

          If no one around you is caring about the rules and life of others, big federal/state rules are easily ignored, even in America.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        Yes, this is not something exclusive of China, or the US, basically everywhere, except maybe some countries in Europe, still have some kind of child labor in a lesser or greater degree. I don’t think China is the worst place on that respect, but blinding believing to someone who lives in a big metropolitan Chinese city that child labor dosen’t exists is pretty dumb.

    • @[email protected]
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      02 months ago

      As a parent, I would prefer this to modern western environments for children that include TVs, video games, phones and no idea what I do for a profession.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 months ago

            I mean, the US has that too. My point is that a nation being rich really doesn’t prevent having those businesses or using them for child labor at all.

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              12 months ago

              I got it, but it’s sounds like the US have small (in size) businesses and factories, not that small business and factories use child labor.