• MentalEdge
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          32 months ago

          Those are some pretty specific additional qualifiers. Did I hit a nerve?

          I’m responsing to someone claiming governments inherently cannot be good providers of essential services, which is patently untrue.

          The nordics are home to numerous government institutions, providing a variety of services that are perfectly satisfactory, and often excellent.

          Are you claiming that email or search engines not being among them today, means the rest mean nothing, or that they never will be?

          If the current services are anything to go by, those things getting added to the list, will be fucking great.

          • @[email protected]
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            -12 months ago

            Who said anything about essential services? It’s the nonessential services that I have a problem with

            • MentalEdge
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              12 months ago

              You classify email and internet search as non-essential?

              And what does how they are classified have to do with the ability/inability of government to provide them in a sufficient manner?

              You claimed something that HAS HAPPENED, could not. There’s no comeback here for you to find.

              • @[email protected]
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                -12 months ago

                You think email is a human right? It’s a box to send password resets. If websites all used one time paaswords, I wouldn’t need my email. You don’t actually send messages to people over email, do you?

                We have things like Signal and Matrix to facilitate actually communicating with people.

                Last time I sent an email to someone it bounced. Imagine spending time writing a letter and the mailman returns it to you

                • MentalEdge
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                  12 months ago

                  I merely consider it necessary to function in modern society, and hence a service a government might conceivably provide.

                  You really like making assumptions about what I mean, and twisting my words, huh?

      • @[email protected]
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        -32 months ago

        List a country with a decent population of like at least 50 mio people that competes with companies successfully and fairly. Countries with a smaller population don’t have as much of a bureaucratic overhead. But even there… where do they offer a better service in a fair competition with companies

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          You are posting on a social media platform solely funded by the EU.

          But I’ve heard the USPS is not shit either. Publicly funded and run universities in the EU also provide the same or better service as those in the US for pennies on the dollar. Also, a lot of European railways are state run, like a lot of other public transit companies.

          Also, the only space agencies that ever got to the moon were public. So were the ones that put the first man in space, and the first man on the moon, and the one that sent the first satellite into orbit and the farthest man-made object from Earth.

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          32 months ago

          I would argue that “bureaucratic overhead” is missing in companies at least as much as it is excess in governments. These double checks and regulations help guard against things like companies externalizing environmental and health impacts. They also act as a check on tendencies towards consolidation (or rather should). Consequently, companies appear to operate more efficiently, but we will have to pay to clean up and handle their externalities eventually.

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          22 months ago

          Google neither competes fairly nor provides a good service. We have to endure them because they have made investment in a competitor uneconomical.

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        92 months ago

        As well as a political party that actively tries to make public services shitty so people won’t miss it when it’s dismantled.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 months ago

        I’ve been to half a dozen countries after COVID.

        That included a 16 hour stay in a Canadian hospital because they just don’t have enough doctors to get around to you if you’re not dying