• coyotino [he/him]
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    1930 days ago

    why are these people leaving? they should force the government to fire them and make a big stink about it.

    • Pete Hahnloser
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      29 days ago

      It’s generally referred to as “a principled stance.” The same result will happen either way; this way, you get to tell your kids you made the right choice.

      • coyotino [he/him]
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        129 days ago

        to me, the more principled stance would be to stay and resist until they are forced to fire you, which makes them look bad. I would have no qualms about telling my kids I made the right choice in that scenario. But others have pointed out that doing this might lead to a career civil servant losing their retirement benefits, and I can understand that that is a lot to throw away for resistance actions that will ultimately change very little.

    • @[email protected]
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      329 days ago

      Probably has something to do with retirement funds. If you have been paying into the system for 30+ years you need that money when you retire and don’t want to see it wiped out or reduced if you are fired.

      Being principled in government jobs has a high cost.

      • coyotino [he/him]
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        229 days ago

        this makes a lot of sense to me. I can understand choosing to resign if this is the case.

    • @[email protected]
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      229 days ago

      … One could say the same of participation in the electoral process. Taking your ball and going home doesn’t work any better as a voter than as an official.

      • coyotino [he/him]
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        629 days ago

        i don’t really agree that “one could say the same” because these are totally different situations. A voter is not a civil servant. A voter does not get paid to vote. Most voters did not swear an oath to defend the constitution (unless they are a naturalized citizen). A single voter also has no power to block an insurgent force from taking over key government systems, unlike a civil servant.

        • @[email protected]
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          329 days ago

          Also a voters pay and retirement benefits are not likely to be impacted by how they vote. Civil service it can make a huge difference in the long run if you retire vs get dismissed.

          • @[email protected]
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            429 days ago

            Is this being dismissive? You presented your point of view and they presented theirs. A nice exchange. You don’t have to agree and you don’t have to answer, but this end felt like an eye roll.

        • @[email protected]
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          229 days ago

          A single voter has(had) the power to join other single voters.
          Most civil servants have little power against an AR.