Summary
Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.
Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.
During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”
The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.
I can’t wait for Trump to die
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DANGER Will Robinson! we can’t threaten people here, not even oompaloompas.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’m not a great shot, but at 130m firing from a prone position I would have made that shot 9 times out of 10. Heck, I had my family on the range firing a diemaco c7 (the colt Canada ar15) as part of a family appreciation day in my home guard company. They hadn’t shot more than an air rifle before, and after about three rounds each they shot killing shots at a silhuet at 200m.
How that guy could miss is beyond me. Almost like it was intentional.
Yeah. Funny thing, that.
Adrenaline makes your hands shaky and the target was moving.
small razor blade to cut the ear and it became a near miss.
I’m not American but wouldn’t that mean Vance becomes president? It’s tempting to think he couldn’t be any worse, but trump likes the fucker so who knows?
Maybe they can die together?
in a bunker somewhere
Poetry <3
I certainly wouldn’t be crying myself to sleep that night.
I don’t think anyone would be sleeping with so much partying going around lol
Sure, Trumpy and JD the Couch Fucker are dead however the new President is Mike Johnson. Looking at the Presidential Line of Succession, it’s shit all the way down.
Do Americans have no way to force an early election?
I don’t think so, the US isn’t like a Parliamentary government where the Government is comprised of sitting Members of Parliament and therefore are subject to the will of the Parliament.
Wow that’s kinda fucked
There are recall elections but those are for state elections.
Of the entire list, I guess I’d pick Grassley.
At least he’s from the old school of partisan bickering.
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Honestly, Vance seems even worse to me. Trump has that embarrassing grandpa vibe and he seems too stupid to make any important decisions on his own or realize what he’s doing. Vance gives me a determined murderous intent vibe.
Yeah Vance seems like a straight up dangerous psychopath. I’m very scared of him getting more power. (I’m worried already by the immense power he already has) I hope public support galvanizes against him quickly.
Vance is much less capable than Trump (and yes, I realize the complete deapth of incompetence that would imply). The harm that he could do would be negated by the complete inability of anyone around him to take him or any threat from him seriously. Especially those on his own side.
Trump, at the very least, still has the threat of his rabid fans to wield.
Less capable? I’m not so sure, the dude has backchannel smarmed his way into being VP at the age of like fucking 12, he’s smart and ambitious and evil. Bad combination.
He’s there because he is a willing toady and not a threat to Trump. No one would be willing to follow him.
The main benefit of it is a lot of the MAGA movement will wither with him gone. Someone will be a successor to it, but I don’t think anyone is as influential to that movement as he is.
I thought that, too. The movement will whither without a charismatic, shameless entertainer as its face and focus; who else is out there like that? Then, it hit me.
Joe Rogan.
But it’s not like President Leon is cozying up to Rogan… right?
Vance doesn’t have any of Trump’s presence. He’s just such a weenie.
After watching the trump, JD, zelensky situation, I lost a big of respect for JD. He acted like a twat. Trump is definitely a better president than him. President that is. They are both douchebags, but so far doing good for the country.
You need to drink your meds, grandpa.
Don’t indult your elders, grandpa’s have been through some shit. Sadly I can’t berate you with realities though as I’m not even close to being that old.
No indults. Got it, ya dipshit!
I’m curious, what good do you see trump doing for the country? It seems to me that he’s doing a lot of harm but we probably have differing views
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When I call Trump and Musk Nazis, I’m not talking about concentration camps or genocide as with 1940 Nazis either. I’m referring to 1933 Nazis which were using demonization of others, attacking independent media, and The Big Lie to consolidate power. These are what made the Holocaust possible.
Don’t waste your breath
This must be the stupidest comment on all lemmy history so far.
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There’s not enough crayons and sock puppets in the entire multiverse to get your dumbass to understand.
Nothing is bad about that, IF that was what was actually happening. Unfortunately, it very much is not.
I don’t have the time to go on explaining why upping taxes for everyone making under $500k isn’t catering to 99.999% of the population. Or how blowing up USAID and surprise Pikachu facing when farmers can’t sell their crops since they sold a lot to USAID (not to mention all the soft power USAID gets us and how useful it is to so many people here and abroad). Restricting access to news agencies is not “more freedom of speech” but rather suppression of it.
Idk you know there is a bunch more I could say but the reality is not at all what you’re painting with your comments.
Less dei? Sorry English isn’t my first language, can you explain me what that mean?
Diversity, equity, and inclusion. The MAGAs have been spoonfed bs that caring for minorities and disabled is stealing their jobs and money.
DEI means diversity, equity, and inclusion. Generally loose frameworks to promote equality for all people. Big talking point for the right, they hate it.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dei-programs/story?id=97004455 https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/us/dei-diversity-equity-inclusion-explained/index.html
Recently a bunch of businesses cut their DEI policies for trump and government offices were ordered to kill anything DEI related.
Man, you’ve really eaten all the propaganda huh? Leave some for the rest of us man
I’m starting to think maybe the username isn’t just a username, and the account is literally for a wall panel to express its views.
Wow, a real one in the wild. It’s incredible to see how twisted your perception of reality is.
Can women be in men’s sports?
What about the veterans who lost their government job?
What efficiency has been created?
What if he starts concentration camps, is that enough to compare Trump to Hitler? Or does it have to specifically be death camps? What if people in those concentrations camps just disappeared and nobody cound find them, would that count?
You don’t get to claim you’re protecting women with transphobic laws when you’re actively inviting sex traffickers like the Tate Brothers to Florida… the whole anti trans women in sports is just misogyny.
Russian trolls and bots have arrived.
Please name/link the wars that ended during his administrations. Why can’t the sports leagues decide who participates via their own rules?
I’ll give him Afghanistan as he organized the withdrawal… but we saw how big a fuckup that was, so bravo for ending that war after 20 years, but proves he has no idea what he’s doing.
He declined to execute the withdrawal, it didn’t happen during the Trump administration.
Wars ended: 0.
Oh shit. I just got here. I see Lemmy is dangerously woke too. Wishing someone to die is rather nasty. I do agree putting that on tv was stupid, world leaders should do all their negotiating (bickering) behind closed doors.
Not addressing the rest of the comment, but ”world leaders should discuss everything behind closed doors” is a dangerously shortsighted take. You do realize their job is to represent you, right? How do you think you can verify they are doing that if you are not allowed to see and hear what’s being said?
I mean, given this is the first time in history two world leaders have negotiated a peace treaty on live tv, yeah. That is not a good idea. They need to feel Free to argue and debate for hours without worrying about pride and pr in front of millions of people. But if you are saying transparency and showing every action on tv by presidents etc is good, then are you pro Donald trump? Because no previous president has been this transparent.
After Musk testifies before House or Senate under oath, your transparency claims might become valid. Until then…
Well, it definitely isn’t a good idea if you’re Trump. I would love to know how Zelenskyy managed to get that kind of a meeting.
What am I saying? He probably just asked. “Hey, I would love to discuss this deal over our very valuable minerals. Let’s invite the newsmedia and record the whole thing, so everybody can see what an awesome negotiator you are!” Pretty easy to win a battle of wits when your opponent is unarmed.
Man life must be so fucking easy for you to never feel threatened by politicians. It’s all just a big TV show in your eyes isn’t it?
Holy hell no. Politicians start wars and send innocent people to their deaths. It’s no joke.
May the door hit your Nazi ass on the way out, scum
It was put on TV on purpose to make Zelensky look weak and make the US look strong (it’s called propaganda) and so daddy Vlad can see that Trump is a good boy.
I can happily confirm that the woke mind virus is alive and well on Lemmy.
You’re half right. It was put on TV to make Zelenskyy look good and for Trump and Vance to look like fools, and they played right into it.
It didn’t work very well, if anything it made zelensky look human, JD look like a prick, and trump look like… trump? I like what trump and co have done so far to fix the mess of woke and corruption, but even I didn’t like trump or JD after watching this. If they really were trying to do as you say, they failed. Big time.
Then go back to Reddit.
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Well, I hope you get outta here too because you are not accepted
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LGBTQ is surprisingly unaccepting towards bigots. And I find that pretty accepting because I am not a bigot.
We are. We do not, however, support fascists, those who are ok with mocking the disabled, grifters, those who are ok with intentionally misgendering others, those who support the marginalization of minorities, people that support the sale of our country to the highest bidders, etc. You support these a-holes and what they are doing to us and this country, therefore, you will not find much acceptance from a good many of us.
I’m not LGBTQ (although I respect them), sorry I’m just very upset with Trump and how much of a horrible person he is, or, more broadly, what the republican party is right now, I really wanted someone like Bernie who seems to actually be a good person, in power
Accepting of who?
No one should accept bigots.
Paradox of tolerance. You wanna be a hateful bigoted asshole, don’t be surprised when everyone shows you the door.
Did you just call someone a homosexual to insult them? Are you 12? Is “LGBTQ” your version of calling someone a fag these days? Holy shit. I’m an old man, a horrible person, and a complete asshole but even I know how fucking stupid and out of touch a person sounds calling someone a
fagLGBTQ.No wonder even a fascist haven like reddit banned you. They were probably so overcome with cringe and embarrassment that they perma-banned you ASAP.
You got banned from nazi digg for being too far to the right, and you thought that lemmy would be more hospitable?
When you aren’t going to be accepted here either so…
Ugh. Ok. If you lot are as nice and accepting as you like to claim, could you point me in the direction of a website with normal people to talk to then? Cheers.
Try Truth Social. I hear that is the place for head-in-the-sand, delusional, can-not-form-a-coherent thought, group-think individuals who worship at the feet of the 🍊 💩 bag.
I could have done without the paragraph of insults, but overall, cheers for pointing me in (hopefully) the right direction to find some sanity on the internet.
Happy to help if it gets you gone. As for finding sanity there, I’m pretty sure all you’ll find are grifters and bigots, but you do you.
You don’t want to talk to normal people. You want to talk to other bigots.
Better woke than a fucking conservative chud.
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We are woke and bang hot liberal chicks. You are an incel and masturbate to anime and the fantasy of having a tradwife, a fantasy that will never materialize. We are not the same.
Ugh.
Tough shit, I know.
Yep