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minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink5•4 days agoYou don’t have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don’t have cancer, the people donating aren’t promised anything in return. It’s still fraud.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink2•edit-22 days agoThe consideration is the exclusive romantic relationship. They wouldn’t have given him gifts if they didn’t believe they were in a relationship. But this is probably fake.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink1•3 days agoThe cancer example is plausible, but I am not sure you would always win. In that case you are asking for help for a specific reason. They “get to feel good about helping solve your problem”. Your deception deprives them of their having done something good with their money - which is the tort. In OP’s instance, he was saying that he had a birthday and you are giving him a gift. Not the same - you can make the same argument, but it is even thinner gruel.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink2•3 days agoPeople get to feel good about getting someone a gift as well.
You don’t have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don’t have cancer, the people donating aren’t promised anything in return. It’s still fraud.
The consideration is the exclusive romantic relationship. They wouldn’t have given him gifts if they didn’t believe they were in a relationship.
But this is probably fake.
Thank you for the addition
The cancer example is plausible, but I am not sure you would always win.
In that case you are asking for help for a specific reason. They “get to feel good about helping solve your problem”.
Your deception deprives them of their having done something good with their money - which is the tort.
In OP’s instance, he was saying that he had a birthday and you are giving him a gift.
Not the same - you can make the same argument, but it is even thinner gruel.
People get to feel good about getting someone a gift as well.