That’s a super shitty thing to do
He’s basically cheating and stealing from 35 people
Dude outed himself when he told Janice his birthday was the 35th of March.
I’m stupid, can someone explain to me how this is illegal? Like morally questionable I get, but how is it illegal?
According to a quick Google fraud in Japan is
obtaining property or illicit economic advantages through deceit.
Gifts I assume are property here
Jesus Christ! Can we get some of that law in the US?!
We do - romance scams are fraud, and they’re illegal.
Enforcement is the issue. Cops in the USA wouldn’t care about this.
Cops in the US still care about a lot of laws which people don’t even give fk about in LATAM, SA and SEA
Best I can do is legalizing corruption and then spend billion dollars on public programs explaining how lobbying helps the people, not capitalism
The only thing that will stop them is the modern day equivalent of people walking out of rome, leaving the elites to make everything themselves.
I’ve studied laws like that for the better part of 25 years and I’ve formulated this new law ointment I’d like to call Lawinment2.0! IRS available at Walmart for $17.75! And the shipping is free because its a download. Just pay as you normally would thru Walmart pay and then head on over to laws.com and receive your free gift! And if you pay thru laws.com to receive a free 5% offer on an additional law you’ll also receive this custom deluxe gorme designer bag gift pin retainer. Its our way of saying thank you! And thank you George Carling for this fine comedy bit.
Presumably he had to give 35 presents too.
That’s what I’m wondering. Perhaps he gives a mean back and foot massage.
Or he’s just good with the D. He might also be good at delivering other Vitamins too
So like…makeup?
No, more like telling 35 different women 35 different fake birthdays so they get you some nice gifts while they’re all under the impression that they’re your only girlfriend. Nothing like wearing make up, you silly, woman hating, goose! Xoxo
“Why you wearing eye shadow, you fraud? Just don’t sleep and get real dark spots under your eyes, poser!”
I’m definitely not a legal expert, especially for Japan.
but this sounds like a con artist.
Hoping that isn’t real because that’s kind of an f-ed up definition for fraud. Also, what a legend.
It’s pretty much the textbook definition of fraud. What are you talking about?
Fraud is defined as intentional deception to deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain unlawfully from a victim.
He intentionally deceived 35 people for material gain. It’s even more fraud if he deceived each one about only dating them.
In the US that could also potentially be rape by deception if any of them slept with him because they thought they were exclusive.
It’s a poor definition because gift exchanges are strictly voluntary and non-reciprocal engagements. I’m not saying what he did was ok or even legal in other contexts. My only point is that I wouldn’t consider this fraud because the victims were not compelled to give. This isn’t a Nigerian prince scam where the victims were promised greater returns at a later date. These victims gave with the expectation of monetary loss.
Seems to fit the official definition pretty neatly. Colloquially, I tend to agree with you, there’s a spectrum for fraud. But this still counts as fraud. It’s a fraudulent misrepresentation of the truth to convince others to part with something of value (a gift).
The fact that it’s a gift doesn’t change that this is fraud, only the severity of fraud in a legal sense.
intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value
Advertising and politics?
laws don’t apply to politicians.
- image of text: there’s this cool alternative called text that doesn’t break the web or accessibility. linking to source & quoting text makes an altogether better web for everyone.
- dictionary definition: not an official, legal definition.
great, y’all want to get into Japanese criminal legal definitions?
Fraud in the sense that the guy is lying and profiting from it, sure. But the common / google definition of a word and the legal definition/ application of that word are two completely different things.
By that logic, fake fundraisers and romance scams shouldn’t be illegal either.
So, it’s not fraud if I tell my grandma with dementia that it’s my birthday once a week so she keeps giving me birthday checks?
Your grandma having dementia changes the formula a bit.
Not really, no. It’s still using deception for material gain through gift giving. Maybe it’s more of an extreme case, but I was being hyperbolic.
It is materially different because a person with dementia can’t legally advocate for themselves so it is easier for an action against them to be considered a crime.
It’s still using deception for material gain. Just because it’s harder to scam someone without dementia doesn’t make it not fraud.
They’re technically voluntary but also socially expected. I’m not sure about birthday gifts in particular but Japan is a country where if you go on holiday somewhere you’re expected to bring a gift for each of your coworkers, and people will think worse of you for not doing that. I’d be kind of surprised if omitting birthday gifts for your romantic partner without prior agreement is a real option.
It’s pretty much the textbook definition of fraud. What are you talking about?
Fraud is defined as intentional deception to deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain unlawfully from a victim.
That’s what most politicians do every election. Just saying.
Most politicians are absolutely guilty of fraud.
I’d even go so far as saying that fraud is pretty rampant in all levels of society.
laws don’t apply to politicians you silly
There is no mention of any consideration (a legal term meaning he didn’t promise them anything in return) provided by the “boyfriend”.
This would not be fraud under English common law.
You don’t have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don’t have cancer, the people donating aren’t promised anything in return. It’s still fraud.
The consideration is the exclusive romantic relationship. They wouldn’t have given him gifts if they didn’t believe they were in a relationship.
But this is probably fake.
Thank you for the addition
The cancer example is plausible, but I am not sure you would always win.
In that case you are asking for help for a specific reason. They “get to feel good about helping solve your problem”.
Your deception deprives them of their having done something good with their money - which is the tort.
In OP’s instance, he was saying that he had a birthday and you are giving him a gift.
Not the same - you can make the same argument, but it is even thinner gruel.
People get to feel good about getting someone a gift as well.
Well there’s your shady gray bit right in the definition. Is it unlawful to lie about your birthday?
deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain unlawfully from a victim
Does either of those fill though?
Found the guy with 35 girlfriend.
I’m down to 28 now. Apparently some of them saw this thread …
Look at that smile. He regrets nothing.
Also: Daily Mail source?..this story is entirely fiction and made up, guaranteed.
This guy cheated on 35 different women for gifts and you go:
Also, what a legend.
I hope that’s a /s 😔
There’s a certain threshold when you’re no longer upset, just impressed. Like if someone ate my slice of cake vs they ate the entire fridge.
I mean the article itself is apparently satire so yeah.
We need to ban birthdays so this never happens again.
Monkey’s paw curls. Now abortions are legal and forced.
I thought Monkeys Paw had adverse outcomes.
Even it has limits. I guess this guy found a way to beat it.
So… We will be just spawns now?
At the same time?
In one bed no less. Must be an Alaska king
Take it he wasn’t reciprocating the gifts?
I think the only way this makes sense is that he’d start dating someone, say his birthday is coming up, dump them after receiving the gift and repeating the process.
Do you get someone a gift if you’re only known them for a week? Serious question.
Maybe he was after small gifts like a cupcake?
Depends on how bad you’re down.
Pretty bad I guess. There isn’t a person I was contemplating getting a gift for, it was hypothetical.
Is that the gift economy I keep hearing about?
no
Genius.
Kinda clever.
