China using families as 'hostages' to quash Uyghur dissent abroad
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Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.
  • @[email protected]
    -2•2 years ago

    There are literally pictures of bloodshed.

    I legitimately don’t understand why Leninists are so keen on making folk heroes out of tyrants. Why exert the energy to defend this shit instead of learning from it and building a better class of socialist??

    • ImOnADiet🇵🇸 (He/Him)
      4•2 years ago

      I’ll listen to western leftists when we actually take power and have to learn to use it to defend ourselves, currently we have a big fat 0 in the wins department

    • @[email protected]
      4•2 years ago

      There are literally pictures of bloodshed.

      Not in the Square itself, which was the scene of many absurd claims by defectors, like the “tanks crushing people to wash them down the gutters” cartoon bullshit.

      Here are interviews with some of the leaders of the protest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu3zmbFGwQA

    • @[email protected]
      2•2 years ago

      I legitimately don’t understand why Leninists are so keen on making folk heroes out of tyrants.

      What a sentence! You’re jumping to conclusions all over the place!

      You’re conflating information with a desire to “make folk heroes out of tyrants”, trying to denormalise a desire to understand what was actually happening.

      There was bloodshed but not on the Tienanmen square and the conditions are less clear than you believe

      It is obvious that most peoples idea of what happened is heavily influenced by propaganda, I know mine was.

      If you could stop sabotaging efforts to cut through the disinformation that would be great thanks

      Also: “They are tyrants” thanks I’ll defer judgement as long as the evidence you present us with turns out to be propaganda, there are other “tyrannical governments” much more in reach

      • @[email protected]
        -1•2 years ago

        A big part of my gripe here is precisely the idea that one can engage in critical analysis of statecraft, while hand waving away inconvenient statecraft. Or worse - supporting broad censorship of inconvenient statecraft.