• ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶
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    462 years ago

    This crazy religious fundamentalism has to go. I’m not a fan of pork, but maybe it’s worth making bismillah pork eating videos on tiktok to show solidarity with this poor woman and mock the fundamentalists.

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    222 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    An Indonesian court has sentenced a woman to two years in jail for posting a viral TikTok video where she said an Islamic phrase before eating pork.

    In March, she posted a video where she uttered “Bismillah” - an Arabic phrase that means “in the name of God” - before eating crispy pork skin.

    The video got millions of views and was widely criticised, prompting another Indonesian to report her to the police for “knowingly eating pork skin as a Muslim”.

    Police charged Ms Lutfiawati in May for disseminating hateful information, saying it was an act of hostility over ethnicity, religion, and race.

    Rights groups and activists in Indonesia have long criticised the blasphemy laws, which they say are frequently misused to target religious minorities.

    Indonesian police last year arrested six people after a bar promoted free alcohol - prohibited in Islam - for customers named Mohammed.


    The original article contains 378 words, the summary contains 147 words. Saved 61%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      Bruh, I thought it was a man made summary until I read it to the end. Lmao

      The summary is pretty good btw.

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    92 years ago

    Sorry to ask and I mean no harm but how serious is eating pork? I’m not religious at all

    • @[email protected]
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      172 years ago

      I’m not religious either but, from the Muslims I’ve met, this seems to vary according to how religious they happen to be on an individual level. Same thing with make up, in theory it’s haram but a lot of women wear it along with their hijab.

      What this headline tells me is that things are getting a bit extremist in Indonesia. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’ve never been to Indonesia.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Its very prohibited. And very here refer to having many statements about it in both Quran, the holy book, and Hadith, the prophet Muhammad sayings.

      However, to my knowledge this case shouldn’t go to the court in the first place because all the islamic warning are personal. It is like breakout a fast, its personal and there are no law or instructions for a punishment for it.

      This shows how bad are the “islamic” groups in Indonesia are. Because in many cases they are doing things that completely unfounded by Islam. I cannot even call them fundamentalist.

    • Annoyed_🦀
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      82 years ago

      It’s the worst sin you could ever commit if you’re a muslim, the same level as murder. They treat it as eating shit, but idk, as a non-religious chinese that’s the best shit we ever got.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        Where the heck do you even get this idea from? I’ve never ever heard it be treated the same level as murder. Do you have any source to back this up?

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        I disagree with that. Cows are sacred to Hindus, pigs are abhorred by Muslims. Most (all?) Muslim countries have minority groups that eat pigs. That’s fine. However, a Muslim eating a cow in India could easily lead to a really bad time.

        There is no actual Islamic punishment for eating pigs, at least not one that I heard of. But who knows with the way people “laissez faire” do religion these days [see conservative Christian Americans calling some of Jesus’ teachings too woke].

        Some info, first response by Google: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/49688/why-is-pork-haram

        • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶
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          62 years ago

          conservative Christian Americans calling some of Jesus’ teachings too woke

          I’m not even surprised.

        • Poplar?
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          P.S even if they occasionally get things right, islamqa.info is a fundamentalist site that follows a very recent ideology that isnt what most muslims believe, and against the established schools of law in islam. Best not to use it.

        • Quokka
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          12 years ago

          Aren’t cows what you reincarnate into if you fuck up enough? Like they’re the lowest of all, so being kind to them is virtuous.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            Interesting. I have never heard of that. I heard of a Hindu diety once being a cowherd in a specific incarnation however.

            • Quokka
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              22 years ago

              Honestly I don’t know if it’s true, hence the question. I saw an Indian person talking about it once, but it’s a hard topic to research in English.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 years ago

                I don’t know myself. However, it does seem unlikely that being a cockroach is somehow an improvement to an animal that is treated and protected well.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 years ago

    Her mistake was to do it in a Muslim country. I have a Muslim friend you wouldn’t even know if they didn’t tell you.

    Outdrinks everyone, sometimes eats pork but rarely. But that’s because they only get pub food, according to him food just takes up space that can otherwise be occupied by beer/vodka/gin/burbon. Noone else I know Muslim or not goes to this extreme, it can’t possibly be good for their liver.

    He’s at least smart enough not to do this in a Muslim country.

    • Kale
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      152 years ago

      There’s a joke told around me that explains this. Why do you always invite two Baptists fishing? Because if you invite one Baptist, they’ll drink all your beer.