The interval between the onset of symptoms and death has been 48 hours in the majority of cases, and “that’s what’s really worrying,” Serge Ngalebato, medical director of Bikoro Hospital, a regional monitoring center, told The Associated Press.
The latest disease outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo began on Jan. 21, and 419 cases have been recorded including 53 deaths.
According to the WHO’s Africa office, the first outbreak in the town of Boloko began after three children ate a bat and died within 48 hours following hemorrhagic fever symptoms.
“Why do we send all these people food”
So they don’t have to eat fucking bats with covid-9000
It’s hard to explain international politics. This was a great example of doing it right.
covid-9000
Sweet name for a Nu Metal band
It’s exactly nine thousand!
HAL was a virus the whole time
That’s going to be a one year or one generation solution to the problem. Then the situation is even worse.
“Why do we send all these people food”
Because we have excess and they don’t.
the first outbreak in the town of Boloko began after three children ate a bat
You’re kidding me
Inb4 congo virus lab conspiracy theory
there have been legitimate concerns that the ongoing violence in the DRC could result in lab leaks and whatnot. I believe there are or at least once were some small lab outputs in DRC bush set up to help with monitoring for diseases.
EBFO? Eat a bat and find out.
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Do we need awareness campaign for “don’t fucking eat bats”? Didn’t know we were that hopeless as species.
Economic desperation and lack of education. Think back to how dumb humans were just like 400 years ago, which is what 20 generations or something? Essentially no grasp of diseases in the modern sense. We are biologically 99.9999% or whatever the same as them.
Ebola spread during that ~2015 outbreak in large part because local customs meant washing the dead and otherwise being in close physical contact. Sadly, people simply didn’t know better.
Also, this is exactly why dismantling USAID was such a phenomenally stupid idea.
You want more plagues? This is how you get more plagues.
From how our Oligarchs have been speaking about the rest of us for quite some time, I’m thinking they want more plagues to get rid of us pesky useless eaters. Hence the destruction of our public health establishment.
I doubt these kids had many food options dude .
The year is 2024.
Trump is elected president.
Somewhere in the world, a butterfly flaps to the left instead of the right.
A bat follows it.
RFK eats said bat.
Then he injects the butterfly
I see you read that article toi
RFK puts a second bat into a blender, then feeds bat soup to…
Brain worm
Chicken of the cave!
The interval between the onset of symptoms and death has been 48 hours in the majority of cases, and “that’s what’s really worrying,”
That’s also great news because it’s easy to identify infections, quarantine, and contain. What would be really worrying is a hemorrhagic fever with an incubation period of 5-21 days a la covid.
Just because they died right after showing symptoms does mean that’s when they were infected. Maybe you’re contagious for 3 weeks then cough twice and die.
Have a nice day.
Have a nice day.
I don’t think I will
Yeah no thanks, you have a nice day 🤣
Why don’t you both have a nice day? 😤
Honestly, every last one of you can go have a nice day, as far as I’m concerned.
Don’t tell me what to do, you’re not my parental figure
Yeah, these kids could have been bat-snacking for quite some time before they came down with any symptoms. Or they’d eaten bats without problems before they lost “bat roulette” and ate one with this particular disease.
Absolutely!
Another example is HIV: Initial infection is just a minor flu, you’re then infectious and active for 5-10 years before becoming seriously ill with AIDS (of course this is for untreated HIV). This allowed the illness to spread for decades adapting to humans before finally being identified in the 80s, killing millions.
Just gonna tack on here that everyone’s favorite presidential whipping boy, ol’ Ronnie shithead Reagan, was partially responsible for allowing it to continue spreading. Hell, his press secretary or some equivalent laughed at the one reporter that actually asked about it and implied the reporter was a homosexual. He also abandoned his buddy Roy Cohn because of it too.
May he rot in piss.
I’m afraid there may be a resurgence of the HIV denialism movement given that RFK is now secretary of health.
HIV denialism
Because of widespread use PREP/PEP, there’s a growing number of people who stopped using any protection including the aforementioned meds…
That’s also an old Soviet intelligence classic, so I’d bet you’re spot on.
Given that he thinks HIV/AIDs is the result of Amyl Nitrate abuse already, he just has to say it official.
That quote doesn’t tell us anything about the incubation period unfortunately.
Unless there’s a longer dormant period where this is contagious, but shows no symptoms, this disease kills too quickly to become a world pandemic.
Anyone that’s played plague Inc knows how this goes. It’s not a winning strategy.
Yeah but one of these days a virus is going to get smart and start up in New Zealand and Madagascar. Chuck in a long asymptomatic (edit: contagious period) and game over.
Come to think of it, why haven’t viruses done this yet? What are they, stupid?
What I never got about this game is that when the virus mutates, ALL copies of that virus mutate in the exact same way. Couldn’t they make a realistic version?
A realistic version would be pretty boring. That’s basically the same as just working for the CDC.
Under this administration, working for the CDC is probably not as boring as it usually is.
Asymptomatic until ready then the whole tree in one minute
we could all just move to greenland and close the ports
Oh shit bro delete this. We don’t need to be giving Trump any ideas.
It’s a bit of a toss up for me between staying in virus plagued USA or locating to Trump’s new monarchy in Greenland.
Well this comment didn’t age well.
Hello! I’m from New Zealand. Why is the scenario of a virus starting here a bad thing?
It’s a Plague Inc. joke. In this game, you’re the virus/bacteria, or whatever other disease. You guide the virus’s evolution with the aim to destroy humanity.
The virus slowly spreads across the earth through planes, boats, etc.
There are a few really isolated spots, including New Zealand, that are hard to get to and they often seal their borders very quickly. When that happens you lose.
So the smart first step is to start the virus in one of the hard to reach places.
Originally Pandemic 2… i miss flash games lol
I propose the Republican’s private islands wherever they are.
A ton already are!
Most viruses, we don’t even notice them… the really virulent ones cause few, if any symptoms.
We just generally don’t worry about them, is all.
I learned how to be in a relationship from visual novels.
Not with that attitude
That’s true with a higher mortality rate.
It has killed around 10 percent of victims, so it can be spread by the rest.
That’s looking on the bright side of things I guess
It also depends on its mortality rate. The, article says 50 died but over 900 infected.
Still incredibly high, but initially it seemed like it was much higher. If enough asymptomatic, or non deadly people catch it and pass it on, it’s still pandemicable, just less effective.
Note to self: Do NOT eat bats. Even if Mom says, “We’re having bat tonight”.
I don’t like eating kale
you could eat balls instead
🎵 Say everybody have you seen my balls? They’re big and salty and brown. If you ever need a quick, pick-me-up, just stick my balls in your mouth 🎵
Suck on my chocolate salty baaaaaaaaaawllllsss
(Base)d
I would also recommend not eating children.
Because of the diseases right?
When this civilization falls and the next one is beginning there’s going to be a religious ban on eating bats.
If it flaps, you slaps. Amen.
Confused, currently fapping my slap.
The Bible already addresses this:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/what-does-the-bible-say-about-bats/
If you want to stay up for a few nights, read The Hot Zone, which is about Ebola. Those bats are gonna kill us all someday, and there are so many of them!
It’s not the bat’s fault really. If us humans would stop encroaching further into their territory and stopped warming the planet to the point of no return, we might not be having such extreme issues with zoonotic viruses we’ve never encountered before trying to kill us.
Don’t even need that much; just stop eating them.
If people aren’t living in the bat’s territory they wouldn’t be eating them either.
Tbf, even if we gathered all people in one giant city to stop encroaching, bugs would follow us due to our food storage/waste and blood, and bats would follow the yummy bugs and make homes in the structures we make, which like for pigeons are often good for bats too. Bats, rats, and some birds you’ll never be able to really escape by avoiding nature because they follow us or something else that does.
I was tripping on shrooms on day, looking at the grass and noticed an ant scurring around then another and little, tiny beetle looking bugs. Then i looked out across a field and saw gnats,bees ,wasps , flys, 20 or 30 birds in the distance , a couple squirrels and thought about the worms under my feet and realized this is their world we just live in it. We are outnumbered a million to one and they don’t need us at all
And no matter how hard some try, they’ll never escape it all.
I prefer to live as close to it as possible instead, and as in harmony with it as possible. I do like electricity and running water though lol, but I’d rather be amongst nature than my “fellow” man any day.
For your next psychedelic trip, think about your gut microbiome.
I try to take care of those little beings as best I can
This does sound wild.
Fair.
Easy to say to starving children. (Which is what happened in op’s article)
Too bad there’s no one who could solve world hunger for 6 billon dollars…
Well I SAID should be sending them foo… Oh…
It’s the Congo.
King Leopold was one of history’s greatest monsters. Rubber tree plantations - they’d chop a hand off or worse if you didn’t make quota. (The Heart of Darkness, later retold as Apocalypse Now, later retold as Spec Ops: the Line.)
The region has been ravaged for the past two centuries. Remember Kony 2012? Those starving children could have been soldiers.
This has nothing to do with climate change that generic area of the world has always beet stock-full of nasty diseases. Even considered by African standards of unlucky geography the Kongo basin is triply fucked.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51N5u7HMbaL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg
This one will keep you up at night, it was SO fucking interesting. It’s basically a story about a crime fighter who goes in and solves really complex crimes…but all the crimes are weird diseases, like strange brain swelling diseases that are gonna kill a ton of people in the US, and the detective has to figure it out before a bunch of people die.
We have the technology to solve insane cases, but we are completely hamstrung by mentally deficient politicians like our current idiot and his party. And how we still prevailed despite their obstructions.
The image link is to the cover of The Premonition by Michael Lewis.
Fuck yes! A deadly pandemic without long drawn out suffering? Sign me up!
Sadly, that makes this unlikely to go pandemic. If it kills too fast it can’t spread.
We’ll have to live a little while longer… 😒
Until some poor sap examining the body gets a tear in his PPE and he gets the mutated version that turns him into a zombie
gets a tear in his PPE
I winced. Is it confirmed it can be transmitted sexually?
I’m not sure if this is satire or not lol.
If not: https://www.osha.gov/personal-protective-equipment
If so, haha pp funny
Yeah, just a dumb PP joke, sorry.
lol no need to apologize, like I said, pp funny
This guy has definitely played ‘Pandemic’ the flash game
Specifically the flash version?
I guess not lol, but I did think it started as a flash game.
I believe you’re correct, though I haven’t played any version of it so I’m not an authority.
This was just meant to be a gentle ribbing, no worries about your actual level of accuracy.
God damn it
Yeah those 48 hours don’t look too fun either though.
Feel awful for those affected.
I’d rather have a few months of major discomfort than the two days of hard-core body horror that they just went through.
The earth will be ok. One day we’ll be gone and she’ll be just fine.
People say save the earth, save the earth. The earth is fine. The people are fucked. We’re going away, folks.
I’m pretty sure when people say that they mean “save the [current state of the] earth [so we can continue living on it together]”.
They were quoting George Carlin.
I guess I should tell him too. Maybe wait until after the show. 🙃
Frankly, she’ll be better off.
Its too bad I don’t care about the rock we’re floating around in space on and mostly care about me and my loved ones.
This is a dumb framing. People want to stop climate change to protect themselves and their loved ones from having to live in an inhospitable hellscape and doom humanity to extinction, not because of an emotional connection to the actual planet.
To me it’s ridiculous that we have no reverence for our actual, objective God: the living Earth.
All the fairy tale imaginary sky daddies people kill other people over while actively desecrating our factual creator with abandon.
We’re so weird. We have a creator. The natural world. And we’ve been in a hot war with that only actual God of humans for about a quarter millenia, lol.
We’ll lose handily. And life will go on.
There are definitely religious and spiritual systems that revere nature, like paganism. It’s the only thing that really makes sense to me.
That’s a generalisation.
Plenty of people have reverence for the natural world.
Certainly not plenty, given what’s happening.
And I don’t mean empty rhetorical reverence.
Reverence would mean having a zero to positive net environmental impact. Like the Native Americans. They weren’t perfect or necessarily peaceful between one another, but they practiced reverence towards the natural world.
Those with practiced reverence towards the natural world don’t fare well amongst our species. We take humble coexistence with the Earth as weakness like clockwork. We jail them for ecoterrorism and genocide their cultures because they get in the way of economic and population metastasis, sadly because we consider our God to be subject to us and not the other way around as we’re going to learn in the coming decades by our own actions and hubris.
I mean “learn” loosely. Sadly many wouldn’t admit to themselves we were wrong or abandon currency as their god even if a CAT 6 just hurled a bus at their head.
That’s subjective as it depends on your definition of reverence and of plenty.
That said, it’s a very good point you raised initially and I wholeheartedly agree that it’s a bit weird.
I agree that the natural world is, for all intents and purposes, analogous to a god.
I also agree that everyone, particularly the most pious of us, seem determined to disregard this god.
Religion is the wrong word, but I do wish that there was more focus on building appreciation for the natural world.
I’m reminded of the “solar punk” movement. There’s an instance slrpnk.net which collates some of these ideas.
Oh you didn’t need to tell us you care more about your stuff then anyone else’s, bud.
Fine, and the the innocent people on it. Jesus fucking Christ.
My point was that Earth itself is just an object with things living on it.
I might be aggressively fucking angry at like 90% of the voting eligible populace in America but there are a ton of other people that don’t fit into that category that don’t hold my ire.
None of us are innocent.
Shit, have I run into someone more misanthropic than I am right now? Neat.
A misanthrope that cares about “innocent” people? Seems fishy.
They had a previous outbreak in December that was diagnosed as malaria. This outbreak is not that one but malaria has not been confirmed as the culprit.
In any case, please don’t go to Congo to bring whatever it is to the rest of the world. Let WHO experts figure it out…if only a retard president had not pulled funding for that vital global health organization.
I am thinking a Congo vacation might be the cheapest thing I can do to save America. Go straight fro the Congo to a Republican fundraiser.
I can think of cheaper!
We can insult Trump without restoring to ableist slurs.
Genuine question, would calling him an idiot, or some other euphemism, be better? It all boils down to “ableist” if you consider it deeply. How do you insult an individual without insulting people like them?
I mean, yes? Are there jackasses, douchebags, and shitbirds out there I should be worried about offending?
We should be allowed to insult people for their lack of intelligence.
Stupid people should not feel as though they have the same voice as everyone else.
Unfortunately, their voice is louder.
“Idiot” was once a medical term for severely mentally disabled people, along with imbecile and moron for less severely mentally disabled. Those terms were used to insult people and eventually became pejorative. The term “Retarded” was introduced to avoid the insult associated with “Idiot”. Now “retarded” is insulting and has been replaced by “developmentally disabled” or “special” or other such nonsense.
In general, value statements are meaningless except as an emotional expression and are a sign of an inability to be articulate and specific in what an issue is. It’s kinda why ad hominems are considered fallacies. Trump is a giant piece of shit though and that’s fine to say
Oh god, this is why people stop being loyal to your side.
LOL, that you think loyalists are better than educated people who can tolerate hearing philosophies they don’t agree with and then being able to CONSENT once they understand, or dissent if they don’t agree
You think education is angering because it’s hard for you to learn
And you think mindless agreement in a cult setting is my DESIRED outcome for working with others
Even toddlers understand to not use that word or slurs, and can learn to not do so. Toddlers make an effort because they care about fairness. Go watch some Mr Rogers and see if you can’t be as progressive as a toddler in the 70s.
Fascists, man
You’re clearly too far gone.
Lol
Speak for yourself. I’ll slur all his disabilities any chance I get.
I haven’t seen the r-slur used since the mid 2000s, and now suddenly it’s everywhere in the past 2-3 weeks. Why are we back-pedaling on even the most basic decencies?
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Literally society regressing in front of our eyes.
ate a bat and died within 48 hours following hemorrhagic fever symptoms
Are we seeing another Ebola outbreak? Or is this a different viral hemorrhagic fever?
All samples were negative for common hemorrhagic fever diseases, although some tested positive for malaria.
Looks like at minimum, it’s a strain of Ebola that’s different enough not to register on a test.
We should really stop eating bats.
spoken like someone trying to keep all the good bats for themselves
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I apologize in advance for my ignorance. But why do people like to eat bats? Are they particularly nutritious? Or is it a matter of access to foods and resources? Are they really yummy? And why didn’t Ozzy contract any weird deadly disease?
Because they need to eat.
Why do people eat chicken if there’s a risk of getting salmonella?
You cook it…
Yet thousands of people get salmonella every year from under cooked chicken and some die of it. Eating bat is the same, cook it correctly and it’s safe.
Why not eat something nice and normal instead of a bat though? I mean FFS
Why not eat something
nice and normalthat westerners think is normal instead of a bat though? I mean FFSFixed that for you. You know different regions and cultures have different norms for foods, right?
I’m struggling to think of a single component of a hot dog or sausage that isn’t “normal” to eat everywhere in the world except for reasons of religion and even then it depends on what meat was used to make it.
I’m curious as to whether this is lack of experience, knowledge or imagination. Maybe all 3.
because you’re used to it.
Also, you replied to the wrong person
You’re absolutely correct, in fact most food is usually variations on a theme e.g. meat in bread like sandwiches, burgers, burritos, tacos, dumplings… but this isn’t a popular opinion unfortunately.
Do they? Most everywhere people eat basically the same shit. Preparation methods vary and there’s substitutions historically based on available resources but globalisation has practically obliterated all that.
I’m not a westoid BTW I’ve traveled a decent amount.
people eat basically the same shit
Buffalo sauce is a rare sight in Europe, as is white gravy. Americans consider them an everyday occurrence.
You may be surprised to learn that “normal” changes based on your culture and geographic location.
I’ve changed geographic location many times, there’s a huge difference between pickling vs. breading and eating fucking bats.
Culture is a spook and an excuse for simpletons.
Lol wtf makes a bat not normal?
Well, for starters, most are pretty small and there’d not be much meat on them anyway. It would be a lot like eating mice, but with more bones.
Do you eat bats often?
have you tried bat?
Could be manna from heaven, for all you know
No? Why would I? Is there anything that makes them as a food source particularly beneficial?
Eating bat vs. eating air seems like a no-brainer in the survival dept.
Do you ask yourself the same thing when eating any other meat or you just have something against other cultures?
You ever eat a hot dog? Crazy stuff in there just as sketchy as bat.
Maybe in the US? I’m sorry but we still have food regs in europe
In reply to this, I give you Andouillette.
I forgive you. 🤗
Unless you don’t eat meat you don’t have much of a leg to stand on right now
Huh? Meat I eat isn’t considered to be a risky source of novel zoonotic coronaviruses
Chicken is safe as long as you cook it properly
Beef is safe as long as you cook it properly
And guess what…
Bat is safe as long as you cook it properly
People get sick and die from under cooking beef and chicken all the time, will you stop eating it because of that?
This is why we had programs like USAID. To keep people from starving and eating infected animals harboring endemic viruses we know nothing about.
Even in the US, it’s highly inadvisable to eat animals/bush meat infected with CWD even if it technically can’t infect humans …yet.
is it a matter of access to foods and resources
This is generally why people eat certain things, yes.
Pretty sure you eat anything possible when you’re starving, and these children may have been.
We ordered the one that infects “red hat”, not “fed bat”. Blame a bad connection, but we’re not paying for this Congo Labs. Try again. (Edit: forgot /s)
