NaevaTheRat [she/her]

Non vegans at least have the excuse of being deeply indoctrinated, and having 90+ percent of people reenforcing and defending their behaviour. The ultra rich dont.

Was talking about the Paris commune in particular, the national assembly is an example of where rich people fall. Rather than share bread they’ll install fascist military dictatorships.

Keeping people in a cage is crueler and riskier than just killing them. If anyone voluntarily gives up their wealth and power I’m all for forgiveness, I’ve never seen it happen but even serial killers have voluntarily turned themselves in and sought help.

I don’t think you quite grasp just how far gone the rich are.

It’s absolutely not 0, people constantly try non violent means of renegotiating social relations and get nowhere, in fact they usually get executed for the trouble. Revolutions have left people alive and they consistently side with counterrevolutionary forces and violently crush anyone attempting to improve equality.

I mean french revolution says hello? The worst that can happen is they scuttle off, rouse reactionary forces, and violently oppress billions again. Which they have consistently done no matter how attractive the proposed alternatives have been.

Also people who aren’t vegan and have encountered the idea also suck, so that isn’t exactly making your point.

I’m not getting into this. The rich willfully demonstrate every single day they are more intentionally anti-social than the most psychotic serial killers. They are pure aberrations, utterly remorseless, completely without empathy. They happily commit mass murder with the wave of a pen again and again, they are engaged in active omnicide. Literally they are actively killing entire ecosystems to avoid a life of staggering luxury vs a life of unimaginable luxury.

Nobody has ever demonstrated an effective treatment for such a disordered mind.

Scandanavia doesn’t rehab billionaires lmao.

If you have a way to rehabilitate them don’t hold back.

tbh you can’t exile people anymore and getting staggering rich requires sustained campaigns of oppressive violence and exploitation.

It’s self defence, you’re talking about people that have demonstrated a complete lack of empathy and a complete lack of wanting to use their resources to rectify that or limit the harms they can do.

These aren’t like people with FAS trying to do anger management courses because their brains got damaged. They’re unrepentant, remorseless, and cruel. They had the resources to do literally anything to demonstrate contrition and chose not to every single day.

That Australian number seems inflated by property. People bought houses 40 years ago for a handshake and a nod and now the houses are “worth” 2 million dollars or whatever. But if you sell your house you need to buy another one and they come in 2 sizes: million dollar family home or million dollar shoebox studio in the city.

So it’s monopoly money.

Yeah black screen with mouse cursor is the thing. If I check the logs it’ll complain about errors trying to get display foo. Can switch to a TTY session and kill shit and get display back if I restart X.

nfi why the mouse cursor still works.

Fair, that’s defs breakage that would trip up a novice computer user.

I’ve been around enough to know that everyone ignores “have backups”. Although I think pacman can do rollbacks because it keeps a cache by default? I’ve never had to and I use snapshots so /shrug.

Still a novice computer user would probably not feel comfortable reading manual pages, and even an expert would be annoyed if this happened.

I tried to run linux on a mac once (work supplied) and it was very annoying compared to a think pad. I can’t remember specifically why, maybe the touchpad had low level drag scrolling I couldn’t overrule or something like that. How do you find it?

Yeah, I would say broken if it wont boot to a normal userspace. Like if you need to insert a recovery tool, or even just login as root and unfuck something before you can get your X/Wayland session up, or if applications start crashing because toolFoo has some critical bug.

But the last time that happened was on Debian when I tried to write a fstab file manually without reading the manual. Also this was the era of CD drives and no multi PC households. Learned a valuable lesson on the ride back from the library, printed documentation in hand haha.

I think people might be saying their system broke when a specific, non critical, application doesn’t work after an update based on an interaction here.

That does become more common if you start installing third party software and/or use less common/recommended tools. Personally I wouldn’t consider that breaking, but I guess to a casual person it might not be clear that rolling upgrade systems have this risk and the weirder your system gets the more familiar you should be with backups and rollbacks.

Because vegan bashing and arch bashing have in common having broadly stupid opinions ;)

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/proton-vpn-gtk-app/ doesn’t list a particular version of python in deps.

Seems like the proton team made a mistake /shrug. Not exactly a system breaking though, it’s a third party piece of software not being kept up to date.

just roll back till they maintain it. Normal enough procedure

Is the protonVPN package maintained by the arch team? Or did you install it on your own?

If the latter you can’t rely in pacman to know about dependencies you never told it about or took steps to ensure were met.

What are people doing that breaks their computers? I have used arch for like 15 years now and nothing ever goes wrong?

The closest would be on my desktop sometimes nvidia drivers are in a state that breaks display reinit on wake from sleep but my thinkpad is always fine.

Seriously who are you weird computer vandals going around and breaking everything all the time? What do you do?

That house is a nightmare, I love it!

Also looks better than my CSS and the aspect ratio hints that it’s responsive but maybe doesn’t implement accessibility well. So we score half points there.

I used to run physics labs at uni so I’d hope I was as alright teacher still. Never made it as a real physicist though ;_;

Everything soft and slow like your brain yes.

It’s pretty hand wavy. The question: why is the speed of sound so slow? (which is essentially isomorphic to this one) is pretty hard to answer. I can’t do the the maths to derive it anymore haha.

There are similar things about light slowdown during refraction and stuff.

It’s just much easier to view certain bulk phenomena as waves in homogeneous material but it can be very unsatisfactory. Hence all the bullshit artists in this thread talking about speed limits, the standard model, and time dilation. For some reason “it just be that way ok?” feels more satisfying if the thing you’re asserting seems more fundamental, but it doesn’t really make stuff clearer.

So have to ask what a solid is to answer this question.

Sticks are quite complex, so lets consider a simpler solid: an elementally pure iron rod.

You can imagine said rod as if it were a fixed array of crystalline atomic cores surrounded by a jelly-like substance. In this ‘jellium’ model the atomic cores have a positive charge, they are the protons and neutrons, and the jelly has a negative charge. The jelly is the wavefunction that represents the electron structure in bulk. If that makes no sense, congrats on knowing your limits.

You’ve probably seen the more modern model of an atom where there’s a nucleus and around it is an electron fuzz with discrete energy levels. Or if you’ve studied at uni strange geometry representing a threshold in probability of finding the electron/s there on a given measurement (if not familiar under certain conditions reality kinda unfocuses it’s eyes and things that we often think of as points become volumes of possible effect). This is a good model of a single atom, but when we bring atoms together they change each other’s properties and the result is that these density functions (the weird electron cloud/shape things) start to blur together.

In our iron rod the electrons delocalize sufficiently we can kinda think of it as a weird jelly. A real stick is more complex, but can kinda be thought of as a stack of smaller jelly treats packed against each other.

When you push on the rod you’re mashing the jelly of your hand into the jelly of the rod, this causes a shockwave that begins to spread, it propagates like a ripple in a skipping rope or a bounce on a trampoline. But since it’s moving ‘amount of electron like properties here’. That makes some areas more negatively charged which drags the positively charged atom cores slowly after it. It moves much slower than the speed of light as we aren’t considering individual electrons which can move energy between them via photons, but the propagation of a disturbance in the collective arrangement of many that are tightly linked (we say coupled).

We can’t imagine a stick that is perfectly rigid because we would be proposing a kind of matter that does not exist, one which isn’t made of a lot of fuzzy electron jelly stuff but something else entirely. We can imagine matter where the jelly is very stiff, and consequently less energy goes into wobbling it all about and the squish moves forward very fast but that speed is still much slower than light because of this collective behaviour.