I thought I had finally found a healthy drink I liked with no artificial sweetness and they had to go and fuck it up

  • Ebby
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    1928 days ago

    It’s interesting to read people’s reactions to stevia. I don’t seem to have the same reactions/aftertaste others point out.

    I much prefer stevia over other sweeteners. I wonder if there is some sort of cilantro type thing going on.

    Edit: Turns out stevia can taste different to other people!

    • @[email protected]
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      328 days ago

      Imo stevia is one of the best of the no calorie sweeteners, but since that entire category is absolutely abhorrent that’s sort of like being called the fastest snail.

      • @[email protected]
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        -127 days ago

        I think we have to allow that when you’re raised on sugar like we all were, substitutes are never going to live up.

        However lots of people throughout history didn’t have refined sugar. The ancient Egyptians for example. What would they have thought of stevia?

        I once went on a strict no-carb diet for a few months and a stevia tea at the end of the day was a very enjoyable treat that I looked forward to. Now, having gone back to a normal diet, it doesn’t taste as good.

        So I think habituation is a big part of it.

        • @[email protected]
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          227 days ago

          I mean of course, yes, but since I can’t change my environment or context all I can do is speak on my own perspective informed my own context and experiences.

          Like I’m not sure what your point is here, just that this obviously subjective topic is subjective? Yes, of course it is. And yes of course my response was likewise subjective, but given the inherent nature of the topic the idea of addending “in my opinion” to the end feels extremely unnecessary.

          So again, I don’t disagree with you, but this feels entirely non-sequitur to me.

          • @[email protected]
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            027 days ago

            I’m saying it’s even more than just subjective from one person to the next. I described how I changed my environment and context and how that had an effect. Your opinion can change.

            I think you’re upsetting yourself trying to figure out if I’m agreeing or disagreeing with you but It’s a discussion. People chip in different bits.

              • @[email protected]
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                027 days ago

                You disparaged the entire category. Which is a fairly common take. I’m saying that the moment we frame that category as sugar substitutes, in a highly sugar-driven world, the category is bound to compare poorly. It’s more than just subjective, it’s very slanted in one direction - for all of us.

                But there are other frames of reference we could consider. Such as a world that isn’t saturated with sugar. Or even a personal diet that removes sugar as the frame of reference. “The examined life” that’s supposedly so worth living consists of trying not to just automatically react to the context we are in, but also consider alternatives, right?

                You’re more than entitled to your opinion, and most share it. I’m just pointing out built-in biases that we all have on this question. If it was hard to figure out how my reply followed from your comment, it might be because I was trying to offer it without invalidating your opinion in any way.

        • @[email protected]
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          120 days ago

          the sweetleaf brand doesnt have the wierd dextrose ingredients that the others have, i used 2 different ones and they all had sugar in it.

    • @[email protected]
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      20 days ago

      you have to be careful of which stevia brand you buy, most of them will contain real sugar, either maltodextrose or dextrose as the ingredient, or the sugar alcohol. i use sweetleaf brand, which is pure stevia. with the other brands with the dextrose you notice its sweeter too.

    • @[email protected]
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      128 days ago

      I’ve had a fresh stevia leaf before, totally amazingly delicious. However i can’t stand it as a sweetener in drinks.

    • DominusOfMegadeus
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      028 days ago

      And none of us can ever really know what anything actually tastes like to anyone else.

      • @[email protected]
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        127 days ago

        And I think we have enough information to say definitively that not everyone experiences every taste exactly the same way.