Summary

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.

He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.

In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.

Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.

  • @[email protected]
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    2152 months ago

    I really believe Trump is refusing calls from Trudeau like its a power move in a high stakes negotiations. Instead its an idiot, Trump, doing something dumb and an actual intelligent adult is trying to tell him how dumb he is and he won’t listen.

    • @[email protected]
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      722 months ago

      His brain operates like a hamster and wheel. The issue is that the hamster died a long time ago.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        That poor thing has been lifelessly spinning for at least 9 years now… Someone should put it out of its misery.

        I know Luigi doesn’t traditionally deal with hamsters, but he does have experience with general extermination, so maybe it’ll translate.


        Of course I am talking about the Mario bros and their turtle extermination side hustle… For legal reasons.

      • @[email protected]
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        242 months ago

        Yeah, I don’t understand how people are confused about this. We KNOW from his last term that the Russians have kompromat on MANY Republicans, or just outright own them. Did everyone forget all the Republican senators flying to Russia together to meet with Putin?

        If you view Trump and Co.'s actions from Putin’s POV, it makes a lot of sense.

    • @[email protected]
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      222 months ago

      A telephone call requires him to respond without his team in the loop. He’s not opening himself up to that.

      Since taking office I’m getting more and more convinced that he’s in two modes. Teleprompter mode, where his words have been agreed upon by his team, and twitter rant, where he’s just spouting his own bile.

      He never speaks candidly in person since winning the election. Even the press room statement after the air crash was a prepared piece with all the hate baked in. Sure he took some questions but they were predictable and mainly deflected.

    • @[email protected]
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      202 months ago

      Nah, he’s just refusing to talk to him because his goal is to tank America and this is a step in it. Funnel all the money to himself and his friends, rape and pillage, and eliminate it as a superpower, threat, or world influence for daddy Putin.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 months ago

      It’s proof that it’s not about the economy which would mean the door is always open to negotiate a better deal. It’s not about drugs since Canada could be calling to say, “We’ve made X changes to reduce drug trade.”

      So that begs the question: what is this all about?

      • @[email protected]
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        152 months ago

        So that begs the question: what is this all about?

        Wrecking the economy so billionaires can buy up infrastructure at fire-sale prices?

        • @[email protected]
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          112 months ago

          This is Putin getting his Puppet to weaken the USA to promote Putin’s goals. Donvict is a Russian asset. A weak USA helps Russia and BRICS, especially for objectives like Ukraine. Other players, like the oligarchs, are also beholden to Putin.

      • Boxscape
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        92 months ago

        He also refused to answer calls from Von der Leyen.

        Maybe he doesn’t know how phones work.

        I do remember him talking about writing letters to Kim Jong Un after all.

    • @[email protected]
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      92 months ago

      Maybe he’s just mad that his wife and daughter never looked at him the way they looked at Trudeau.

    • @[email protected]
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      -151 month ago

      Do you believe the same thing of the Biden administration’s refusal to talk to Putin’s office?

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        1 month ago

        Ah yes, who can forget the longstanding free-trade agreement with America’s favourite, peaceful neighbour, Russia. Both sides are totally the same.

          • @[email protected]
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            111 month ago

            The answer is implied. No, I don’t believe the same thing, because they are explicitly different situations.

            Refusing to communicate with someone is valid when you have valid reasons.

            Refusing to take a phone call from a guy actively engaging in a violent robbery is valid for a number of reasons.

            Flinging bags of shit into your neighbour’s yard, then refusing to talk to your neighbour’s when they say “this isn’t helping either of us live well; I don’t want to throw this shit back at you, but I will until you stop” is not valid, it is the inaction of a petty imbecile that can’t justify their actions.

            Does that answer your question?

            • @[email protected]
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              -81 month ago

              So you think it was not childish at all to refuse to communicate with Russia? That blows my mind.

              • @[email protected]
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                31 month ago

                What? No. I literally just explained that. No, it’s not childish to refuse to take a bad faith call from a dictator to either legitimize their rule or engage in a conflict that would drag the world into a 3rd world war.

                Whether you agree or disagree with whether that is the correct political move is certainly up for debate. But to claim it is childish is itself naive.

  • @[email protected]
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    1052 months ago

    There is nothing other countries can really do about this except impose tariffs in kind. When american inflation goes up I hope Americans put stickers on gas pumps and more eating “Trump did this”

    • @[email protected]
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      232 months ago

      I’ve considered making some for exactly this purpose. This biggest hurdle is I would feel bad vandalizing the pumps and forcing someone else to clean up after me.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 months ago

      Though Trump will most likely absurdly blame Biden & democrats somehow and MAGAs will dumbly eat it all.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        If they make this year as shit as possible and it evens out next year they can say they saved the failing economy.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 months ago

      I want to make ones that say “YOU did this” to maybe MAYBE give the trump dummies/non voters a moment of self reflection.

    • Zelaya
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      12 months ago

      México could send 25% of his citizens.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      Canada could start ignoring American intellectual property rights, or shutting off power exports to places like NY.

    • @[email protected]
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      02 months ago

      Tariffs don’t work that way, putting the tariff up was stupid and putting a reactionary tariff up would also be stupid.

  • @[email protected]
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    982 months ago

    If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump’s support will crumble.

    • @[email protected]
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      352 months ago

      This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.

      It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.

      • @[email protected]
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        332 months ago

        Trump’s base is a lost cause, but the pain may get the soft Dem voters to get off their arses and turn out for the next election.

        Nothing will shift Maga, so appealing to them is wasted.

        • @[email protected]
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          122 months ago

          I agree there is a large subset of MAGA that are lost causes, however, I’ve seen a couple people around me change their minds on Trump: One was over the H1B (fear of job loss) and the other was over these recent tariffs (fear of paying more). Had to cause issues that could have direct impacts to them personally to change their minds, but there you have it.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 months ago

        Justin Trudeau tried to speak to the American people and did play heavy on the lasting friendship between the two countries. Will that dull the backlash against Canada? Trump wants an enemy out of Mexico, Canada, and China.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 months ago

          Trump wants an enemy out of Mexico, Canada, and China.

          Which is hilarious because one of those things is not like the other

        • @[email protected]
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          -212 months ago

          There’s a personal enmity between Trudeau and Trump. Trudeau shot his mouth off a lot the last 8 years, and really ramped it up the last 4, never thought Trump would be back, and then went on the news crying about Trump winning wasn’t fair, after making an ill advised trip to Mar a Largo instead of sending his foreign affairs minister, or anyone else that Trump didn’t literally hate. Trump, he’s talked a lot of shit about Trudeau being a two faced weasel and other (also not untrue) comments about his intelligence. If anyone is gonna fix it, it’s Trudeau’s replacement, coming fairly soon, or possibly the guy after that, federal election by early summer, late spring most likely. Trudeau’s desperate need to hold on ten years into power when literally everyone was telling him to get the fuck out is really hampering us right now.

      • Mayor Poopington
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        52 months ago

        The idea is this will force red state senators to do something. It worked during the Bush administration, anyways.

    • @[email protected]
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      As the other posters have pointed out, we’re already on it. Which, no offence, is a symptom of why we don’t want to be part of the US - our government actually works.

      I looked over the official list, and it’s stupid detailed. Like, a couple of goods mentioned are papers for wrapping cigars and fitted cases for church bells.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        T came out of the gate, clearly rewarding loyalty and smashing dissent. No red state is going to budge. It’s like T watched a CPG Grey on Monarchy.

        And even if they did and tried, he’s not listening to anyone but his handlers.

    • Justin
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      162 months ago

      Even 38.3% of Californian voters voted for Trump. The Trump party only has a 9 set majority in the house, and California has 9 of them, all of which are up for reelection in 18 months. Targeting individual states probably isn’t that helpful.

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        It absolutely will. Red state leadership only cares about one thing. Money. The moment you start targeting their bank accounts. They’ll flip on Trump. Spreading the tariffs across all voting bases is dumb. Yes 38.3% voted for Trump, but that’s nowhere near as much as the other 61.7% that actually want a better future for all! Red states are already struggling. Push them to the breaking point first to see how they react. Hurting working class blue voters will only push them right.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        The Republican party isn’t acting like they’re worried about having to compete in fair elections again. It’s also looking like the administration doesn’t need congress or the courts, and can do whatever they want.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        Yep and lot of them are from the agricultural counties that abuse illegal labor and need water for their crops and livestock. I was laughing, I know I shouldn’t, when the Orange Fucktard released the water. for nothing.

  • Blackout
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    832 months ago

    Who would risk investing millions into a factory when you have no idea when your materials could be randomly taxed/tariffed. Was literally working on factory plans in Troy, MI when this put a permanent hold on it. Relying on Quebec aluminum like many others. No sense continuing if we have to use Chinese aluminum, just expand the China facility instead.

    • @[email protected]
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      362 months ago

      I work in automation in SEMI. My idiot conservative boss is convinced that this will help us by bringing manufacturing from Mexico.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 months ago

      I work in automation in SEMI. My idiot conservative boss is convinced that this will help us by bringing manufacturing from Mexico.

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        Christ- mexico was becoming a good ally for manufacturing.

        Lot of engineering is being shipped off to China since big companies like localization to prevent tariffs. Mexico was helping to soothe that.

        We’re so fucked lol

  • Maple Engineer
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    692 months ago

    Here are some numbers to consider.

    The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

    Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

    The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

    Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

    Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

    Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

    Who isn’t pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

    This isn’t about illegal immigration and it isn’t about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

    This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 months ago

      That makes sense. And Congress is bought and just watching. Well, between calls to their brokers to buy!

      • Maple Engineer
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        21 month ago

        I wonder if this recent Redditfugee realizes that blocking on Lemmy doesn’t work the same way it does on Reddit? By blocking everyone he thinks is a “moron” he is taking himself out of the conversation, not them. Now we can talk about him all we want and he’ll never know. Of course he may just be trying to wrap himself in a comfort blanket of blocks to protect his fee fees.

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          Oh so this is just layperson’s math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.

          Trump and his ilk are trying to spread the idea that the US doesn’t have to buy the $482 billion worth of goods ans services from Canada and its doing so essentially as a ‘favor’.

          Canada does not have the systems in place to sell to the rest of the world efficiently, especially oil. Which is part of why the Canadian economy is more dependent on the US than vice versa.

          It looks like ~20% of the $482 billion figure you’ve cited is oil which the US could reasonably procure from elsewhere, even domestically, if there was a will to do so. Especially considering that Western Canada Select is high in sulfur and needs more refinement, making it less valuable on the global market.

          • Maple Engineer
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            111 month ago

            Oh so this is just layperson’s math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.

            Yes, I dumbed it down for the MAGA crowd and pedants on Lemmy.

  • @[email protected]
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    622 months ago

    He was talking directly to the American People, as he mentioned right before this quote.

    But it seems American media is invested in keeping the American people uninvested. Like this is between two leaders and we just get to watch.

  • 🎨 Elaine Cortez 🇨🇦
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    612 months ago

    Good.

    Imagine after less than two weeks in office, you’re threatening and blackmailing other nations into being annexed by you and thinking this makes you the good guy in this scenario.

    • Drusas
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      202 months ago

      I doubt he thinks he’s the good guy and I’m certain he doesn’t care.

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        My impression is that he thinks morality is dumb, basically. He’s the protagonist of his own story, to the degree you’d expect from a raging narcissist, but not every story has a protagonist that’s good.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      Not any other nations, some of your closest allies and trade partners. It’s fucking bonkers…

  • @[email protected]
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    582 months ago

    If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 months ago

      Potash and Canada exports a lot to the USA. This would affect the US agricultural sector.

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        Crank up the prices of 25-50% Potash too, its too short supply to get a different supplier and if they don’t use it the crops will fail. The US has worked our relationship carefully for decades to get some huge trade advantages from Canada, and Trump just blew it all up.

        USA has already lost more than they can ever gain.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 months ago

      Yeah during Trudeau’s speech the only thing I was thinking when he was listing all of Canada’s resources is, “are you trying to encourage a US invasion?!”

  • 🕸️ Pip 🕷️
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    It’s baffling how foreign relations 101 gets completely thrown out the window by this shining idiot. It is SO important to establish good trade and relations with your bordering countries, and what does this guy do? The exact opposite.

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      222 months ago

      Some of those relations have taken decades to refine. Now little Donny is playing with a hammer and turning it all to shit within weeks.

    • The Quuuuuill
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      172 months ago

      remind you of any sickly potato shaped dickheads in moscow who sit atop thrones of skulls you know?

  • @[email protected]
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    So be it.

    I can’t wait for the layoffs at my UPS hub. I told them it was gonna happen before the election. His shit business tactics will lead to economic devastation and was poo pooed and hand waved away. Let the hammer fall. Maybe it will wake up people.

    • toomanypancakes
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      172 months ago

      It won’t stand a chance of waking anyone up unless we rub it in their stupid selfish faces at every opportunity and they can’t get a reprieve from learning about how stupid their fucking choices are. Make sure to tell the trumpists laid off “Your president!” on the way out.

  • mtdyson_01
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    302 months ago

    Don’t worry, Trump has already thought of that. No one knows more about driving businesses into the ground than him and he is still rich. It doesn’t matter that he couldn’t come up with cash to pay bonds, he knows more about business and negotiations than anyone. Trust in the well thought out plan!

    Trump plays the long game! He absolutely negotiated as he puts it “a very bad deal” six years ago with Canada and Mexico so he could come back and stick it to them now. The brilliance, the genius behind it is mind boggling. It just goes and shows everyone how petty and greedy Canada and Mexico are for retaliating because they just hate Trump.

    /S

    • @[email protected]
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      32 months ago

      And canadian bacon!

      I just watched it for the first time last week…

      I guess it was funnier in the 90s…